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What is blacks next move......
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:25 pm
by Hazushi
Follow it to the end, Whats the best move for black, best course of action ect, ect?
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[White]PB[Black]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[dc]
;W[od]
;B[pq]
;W[ce]
;B[oe]
;W[ne]
;B[pe]
;W[nd]
;B[pc]
;W[ng]
;B[ed]
;W[po]
;B[ph]
;W[dg]
;B[np]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[or]
;W[qk]
;B[hc]
;W[kp]
;B[ip]
;W[lo]
;B[nn]
;W[no]
;B[oo]
;W[mo]
;B[on]
;W[qn])
This was the end result of what happened during play for those who are intrested...
Re: What is blacks next move......
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:10 pm
by Sevis
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:53 pm
by EdLee
Hazushi, what are the levels of the players? The
wedge is suspect
because W got himself a broken shape:
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$$-------------------------[/go]
Re:
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:44 pm
by Hazushi
EdLee wrote:Hazushi, what are the levels of the players?
I dont really know I would Imagine 4-6k.. I can do 7k at best and I lose to them at about 20-30points average. But I dont really know they are friends and are guys that went to japan when they were in the military and came back knowing how to play the game and when they were visiting family in the area we sat about and they played a game and I watched. I was just curious about it I know black is a stone weaker than white though.
Re: What is blacks next move......
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:07 am
by Solomon
My initial line of thought:
$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . . O O , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . d . O O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , O . . X . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 a . b . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . . O O , X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . d . O O O X O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . 1 a . b . . . . . . X O . . |
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Letting White play at 'a' is annoying as it's a nice extension from D4 and threatens to connect underneath at 'b'. By playing
, you settle your H4 stone which will make it easier for you to attack M5. Ideally, you want to launch a double-pronged attack on both M5 and O13 and this is the ultimate goal you should establish in this game until the dust settles, after which 'c' is a big move you may want to consider later on. If White responds to
, consider 'd' as a follow-up, which is the soft spot in White's shape.