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Resuming games

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:44 am
by hyperpape
After a player disconnects, they should not be able to start a new game while their opponent still has that game open. This would be a small impediment to escapers.

It would also be nice to have better indications that an opponent is available to resume a game. Two ideas: there could be a dialog when you enter the site that tells you that the opponent is logged in. Or the resume button could be highlighted. I believe that currently the only indication is if your opponent actually has opened the game.

Danielm first mentioned one of these ideas in another thread: viewtopic.php?p=70294#p70294

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:55 am
by Solomon
I just put the escaper in my buddy+fan list. This way, I can not only see when he's online, but also if he's in a game already (so he can't resume our game) or not.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:58 am
by hyperpape
Yeah, that partially solves the notification problem, but it's manual.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:48 am
by Mr. Mormon
Keep in mind not to punish people who want to play simultaneous turn-based games.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:29 am
by xed_over
Mr. Mormon wrote:Keep in mind not to punish people who want to play simultaneous turn-based games.

:lol:

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:40 am
by Mr. Mormon
By which I mean me (eventually). The fact that KGS allows turn-based games is one reason why I like it.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:47 pm
by xed_over
Mr. Mormon wrote:The fact that KGS allows turn-based games is one reason why I like it.

Oh I actually agree. I've never used it yet myself, but I think its a cool feature.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:01 pm
by oren
Mr. Mormon wrote:By which I mean me (eventually). The fact that KGS allows turn-based games is one reason why I like it.


Just don't start too many or you'll be an escaper. :)

I think you're better off using a real turn based server.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:12 pm
by wms
oren wrote:
Mr. Mormon wrote:By which I mean me (eventually). The fact that KGS allows turn-based games is one reason why I like it.


Just don't start too many or you'll be an escaper. :)

I think you're better off using a real turn based server.
Non-timed games will never make the server decide that you are an escaper.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:20 pm
by Mr. Mormon
Really!? I thought there was a limit at four games with the opponents waiting for one's turns, based off of this line from http://www.gokgs.com/help/faq/escapers.html:

If you already have some escaped games, you may be forced to forfeit your oldest escaped game. This will happen if you have 5 escaper marks, and you have fewer than 10 legitimate losses for each escape. Only losses are considered because people who walk away from lost games are escapers. The system doesn't allow more than 10 pending escaped games.

But if that doesn't apply to no time limit, sweet! Thanks for letting me know, wms.

(I prefer KGS because is almost has NZ rules.)

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:42 am
by Mr. Mormon
Question for wms: then how is escaping handled? If one doesn't make one's turn in six months, one loses?

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:39 am
by Li Kao
Since the game drops from the ranking after 6 months I don't think that it's very interesting what happens. I guess it'll just end up as an unfinished game in the archive.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:38 am
by oren
Mr. Mormon wrote:Question for wms: then how is escaping handled? If one doesn't make one's turn in six months, one loses?


I'm guessing the game becomes unable to be resumed after 6 months from the start and not from the last move.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:14 am
by Mr. Mormon
I sure hope not. Although, that would be incentive for both players not to play too slowly as long as neither is the escaper type.

Li Kao, the game couldn't lose its influence on rank if it wasn't decided yet.

Re: Resuming games

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:35 pm
by wms
As of 6 months from the game start, the game disappears completely from the server itself. It stays on the web archives as an unfinished game, but it has no effect at all on anything inside the server.