Life In 19x19

today i meet really annoying player with the nick leehusun.
we play 2 times n he won the 1st game.
after that he challange me again n i won the 2nd time by a big margin but he always reject the counting. n then he mark my living group as dead n his dead group as life...
of course i refuse but hey, it keep happening for more than 1 hours...
seems like he want to win so badly he show no manner...
he even refuse to continue playing so i can kill it manually...

do any1 have an idea what sould i do...?

f4223n354 wrote:do any1 have an idea what sould i do...?

Find out how much of your life is worth spending on people like him.

EdLee wrote:Find out how much of your life is worth spending on people like him.

lol, he's not worth my time but my pride refuse to lose agains som1 like him

gladly he gave up after more than 2 hours...
hahaha, glad i didn't foolishly wait for him n play in kgs instead...

f4223n354 wrote:it keep happening for more than 1 hours...

f4223n354 wrote:he gave up after more than 2 hours

f4223n354 wrote:he's not worth my time

Right.

For your own stress management, it's better to take the loss and blacklist the player in question.

Nevermind that they don't deserve the win, it's much better to turn away from such people as fast as possible.

Besides, there's not much value lost in having just one loss too many. You'll recover from it pretty soon.

Helel wrote:

Tsuyoku wrote:Besides, there's not much value lost in having just one loss too many. You'll recover from it pretty soon.

It is not the loss, it's the principle. Should you let people get away with cheating you, only to go on and cheat someone else? Is it rather not your moral obligation to stop them, even if it takes hours, days or years? Otherwise, are you not as guilty as they are?

Hmm. 'the principle'. Dangerous substance. Maybe grief for you, grief for others. A world of pain perhaps. Wars are sometimes started on principle, many people die, and the principle may be twisted & forgotten. Not that people listen to Cassandra.

Walk away. ( Or better run, forrest, run ).

Helel wrote:

Tsuyoku wrote:Besides, there's not much value lost in having just one loss too many. You'll recover from it pretty soon.

It is not the loss, it's the principle. Should you let people get away with cheating you, only to go on and cheat someone else? Is it rather not your moral obligation to stop them, even if it takes hours, days or years? Otherwise, are you not as guilty as they are?

That doesn't work, though.

You're not changing their behavior at all. If enough people behave the way they want, then the few who don't are irrelevant.

If you could seriously change their bad behavior by refusing to yield for several hours, it would be worth your time. If not, why bother?

yeah, more over when he didn't say a word...
i doubt he'll change his way...

later i found out that lot of ppl doing that in wbaduk...
refuse the marking, mark some lifing group dead, n apply for the counting...
it's kinda sad seeing ppl doing thing like this...

Very recently I also have noticed a rash of cheating (albeit still nothing like my experience of Tygem).

Specifically, when your opponent is losing, they will mark one or two dame as "shared seki liberties" to throw off the score and quickly accept it. It can be easy to miss the one little red x on an otherwise normal looking scoring screen.

I fell for it once, it has been tried on me twice more since. Filling dame before scoring would abate this, I guess.

Happened to me twice, once I just resigned the game. I know that I won anyway, so, it is his problem.

f4223n354 wrote:today i meet really annoying player with the nick leehusun.

This is a little funny, because when I first read it I thought his name or username was Nick Leehusun, and this is what came to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson

aokun wrote:

f4223n354 wrote:today i meet really annoying player with the nick leehusun.

This is a little funny, because when I first read it I thought his name or username was Nick Leehusun, and this is what came to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson

Cheating in business, cheating in go

I can report that after a year there are still same issues. Looks like we just need to get over it. Even dan players are doing such things there, which I can't understand why...

Seems like a way to resolve this through additional server capability would be to allow each player to mark what they believe is the score and "Submit for arbitration" and whoever marks incorrectly relative to the arbitration to have an indication near their rank or on their profile.

This seems much better than "living with it".

A server could have designated, perhaps volunteer or bartered, trusted arbitrators.

There are admins waiting for help in Tygem and wBaduk, but I don't know if they can understand English.

I think they can understand "Help me." or "No manner."

It is 2 AM here in Korea but I still find admins online in both servers.