What a delicious sounding game. Even, Japanese rules? I'd prefer open book/database, but I am also fine with closed book. (And closed comments, as per normal).
1) No silly fuseki mistakes 2) Don't get sucked into fights that are hard for me.
I'd really like to take this to endgame.
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:17 pm
by Marcus
Whoah! Loons is 1d now? Congrats! I missed that.
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:05 pm
by Loons
Hah, the secret is; 1d isn't very good at all. You'll understand when you get here . Pursuant to the slight confusion at the start of Ed & I's game, I thought it may be useful for everyone to see our KGS ranks in the title...
(My KGS account is a secret, because I get self-conscious of playing if too many people are watching me...)
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:28 pm
by ez4u
Loons wrote:...
(My KGS account is a secret, because I get self-conscious of playing if too many people are watching me...)
"You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could know how seldom they do." - Olin Miller
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:42 am
by daal
Loons wrote:(My KGS account is a secret, because I get self-conscious of playing if too many people are watching me...)
I feel this way sometimes too, and while ez4u's quote is often applicable, I sometimes cringe at what observers say about my moves. The question remains however, how private do you think a Malkovitch game is?
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:19 am
by Loons
daal wrote:I feel this way sometimes too, and while ez4u's quote is often applicable, I sometimes cringe at what observers say about my moves. The question remains however, how private do you think a Malkovitch game is?
Touché. I still feel Malkovich and timed server games are quite different beasts though.
I'm feeling like this- Kobayashi sans the a-b exchange. Of course, this involves white's choice to play two 4-4s. It's a normal fuseki that breaks the normal rules just a little (playing the extension before playing the shimari). It avoids eg. white playing a pincer or counterapproach after ...'a'.
As white, I like to start with double hoshi, or hoshi and facing 3-4 point. I play hoshi first so I can get a facing 3-4 no matter which corner he takes.
Hmmm. Is it that people who are slightly depressed are realistic, or that people who are realistic are slightly depressed?
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:05 am
by ez4u
I don't know. I wondered the same thing. He was quoted in a book. I searched his papers available on-line, but could not find the source to clarify it!
Edit: Bill's previous and the resulting thread highjacking refer to a previous sig of mine: “Overconfidence is, we think, a very general feature of human psychology... Almost everyone is overconfident – except the people who are depressed, and they tend to be realists.” -- Stefano DellaVigna, professor of economics, UC Berkeley
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:11 am
by Bill Spight
ez4u wrote:I don't know. I wondered the same thing. He was quoted in a book. I searched his papers available on-line, but could not find the source to clarify it!
Both claims are supported by psychological research.
Re: 138. Loons 1d vs Pancake 4d
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:13 pm
by Kirby
Bill Spight wrote:
ez4u wrote:I don't know. I wondered the same thing. He was quoted in a book. I searched his papers available on-line, but could not find the source to clarify it!
Both claims are supported by psychological research.
It's not clear to me how to scientifically quantify what might be "realistic", because this seems to be a subjective term.
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. Pursuant to the slight confusion at the start of Ed & I's game, I thought it may be useful for everyone to see our KGS ranks in the title...
...'a'.
refer to a previous sig of mine: