3k vs 11k (me)
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:31 pm
by mafidufa
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[NeilM]PB[mafidufa]WR[3k]BR[11k]DT[2011-11-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[NeilM [3k\]: Hi
NeilM [3k\]: Have fun
]RE[W+144.50]
;B[pd]BL[893.438]C[mafidufa [11k\]: hi
NeilM [3k\]: You speak English?
]
;W[cc]WL[888.695]
;B[pq]BL[886.933]C[mafidufa [11k\]: yes i do
NeilM [3k\]: Hello?
NeilM [3k\]: OK
NeilM [3k\]: Cheers
]
;W[po]WL[877.737]
;B[np]BL[876.582]
;W[cq]WL[872.516]
;B[pk]BL[865.215]
;W[pm]WL[867.411]
;B[nl]BL[853.445]
;W[qq]WL[861.585]
;B[qr]BL[850.347]C[NeilM [3k\]: Nice play
NeilM [3k\]: I am very tired today
mafidufa [11k\]:
NeilM [3k\]: Hence the game request
mafidufa [11k\]: good to play a 3k
]
;W[no]WL[838.978]C[NeilM [3k\]: In theory ...
mafidufa [11k\]: I'm a bit nervous
NeilM [3k\]: No need
NeilM [3k\]: Relax and play the board not me
]
;B[mo]BL[824.629]
;W[op]WL[831.832]
;B[oq]BL[817.638]
;W[mp]WL[824.04]
;B[nq]BL[804.473]
;W[mn]WL[820.796]
;B[lo]BL[801.731]
;W[nn]WL[816.728]C[NeilM [3k\]: I play too fast - sorry
NeilM [3k\]: Hard to think with a dull head
]
(;B[qp]BL[778.892]C[mafidufa [11k\]: i generally play slowly
]
;W[ln]WL[802.105]C[mafidufa [11k\]: and run out of time
NeilM [3k\]: I can add time
NeilM [3k\]: Appreciate the game
]
;B[ko]BL[764.126]C[NeilM [3k\]: I appreciat ethe game
]
;W[fp]WL[793.58]
;B[qn]BL[742.772]C[mafidufa [11k\]: as do i
]
;W[jq]WL[779.513]
;B[kq]BL[723.756]
;W[pn]WL[775.078]
;B[qo]BL[720.224]C[NeilM [3k\]: A key to good Go is to keep seeing the whole board the whole time
]
;W[qm]WL[758.313]
;B[jd]BL[690.914]
;W[fd]WL[745.341]C[mafidufa [11k\]: it's something i struggle with
]
;B[ge]BL[674.066]LB[gc:B][ce:A]C[NeilM [3k\]: So you have a key aspect of your gae that you can improve - to work on
Comment: NeilM says a few moves later that this wasn't really right globally. I don't feel right about it but I don't know how else to respond to this. A seems to be just asking for a pincer. Up until a week ago I would have played B instinctively but there was that whole analysis of shoulder hits and armpit hits in the 1986 vs Hailthorn Malkovich.
]
;W[qf]WL[734.787]
;B[qh]BL[663.626]C[NeilM [3k\]: I run a Go web site - it may help you
NeilM [3k\]: http://www.learngo.co.uk/Live/ListGames.php
NeilM [3k\]: Nearly 150 very detailed game commentaries
NeilM [3k\]: Each taks me 3-7 hours to write
]
;W[qc]WL[704.127]C[NeilM [3k\]: takes*
mafidufa [11k\]: cool
]
;B[pc]BL[652.871]C[Comment: I was just reading about this pincer on SL and I blocked this way because I have the K16 stone. This right?
]
;W[qd]WL[700.773]
;B[pe]BL[646.162]C[mafidufa [11k\]: thanks for taking the time
]
;W[qg]WL[696.455]C[NeilM [3k\]: No worries
]
(;B[pg]BL[621.766]C[NeilM [3k\]: G15, for example, was a local respoinse to my move, but not so key on a global scale
]
;W[pf]WL[680.898]C[NeilM [3k\]: Excuse my typos - I spell check my gam ecommentaries
]
;B[of]BL[563.033]
;W[ph]WL[660.106]
;B[og]BL[528.599]
;W[rh]WL[651.678]C[NeilM [3k\]: I make a mistake
NeilM [3k\]: Oh well
mafidufa [11k\]: it looked weird
]
;B[qi]BL[486.939]
;W[pb]WL[645.462]C[mafidufa [11k\]: but i thought it was a trick
]
;B[ob]BL[472.639]
;W[qb]WL[641.607]
;B[oc]BL[463.392]
;W[ri]WL[639.269]C[NeilM [3k\]: r15 weakness was too much my focus
]
(;B[rj]BL[429.237]
;W[qj]WL[636.136]
;B[pi]BL[420.269]C[NeilM [3k\]: s10 not good
]
;W[pj]WL[633.078]C[mafidufa [11k\]: yes r9 better?
NeilM [3k\]: r10
]
;B[oi]BL[395.238]
;W[oj]WL[629.375]C[NeilM [3k\]: So I can help my group below
mafidufa [11k\]: yes r10
]
;B[nj]BL[369.331]
;W[ni]WL[626.029]
;B[oh]BL[360.08]
;W[nk]WL[620.813]
;B[mj]BL[348.205]
;W[rm]WL[605.746]
;B[ll]BL[317.671]
;W[ok]WL[594.386]
;B[dj]BL[240.742]
;W[mk]WL[584.955]C[NeilM [3k\]: d10 very good
]
;B[lk]BL[230.557]
;W[lj]WL[573.304]C[mafidufa [11k\]: trying to remember to tenuki once in a while
]
;B[mi]BL[216.691]
;W[li]WL[565.93]
;B[mh]BL[211.266]
;W[lh]WL[558.061]
;B[mg]BL[198.138]
;W[jj]WL[549.664]
(;B[km]BL[174.632]
;W[kn]WL[545.058]
;B[jn]BL[148.13]C[NeilM [3k\]: I targeted your M8 stones as a way of reducing your moyou above a little
]
;W[jo]WL[537.245]
;B[jp]BL[128.04]
;W[io]WL[528.532]
;B[ip]BL[98.066]
;W[hp]WL[521.358]C[NeilM [3k\]: It is really good that you take time to thinkk clearly like this
]
;B[in]BL[65.961]C[NeilM [3k\]: This should get you moving up the ranks
]
;W[ho]WL[513.566]
;B[iq]BL[59.023]
;W[hm]WL[507.284]
(;B[il]BL[27.587]C[Comment: Can I get out? Neil thought so. I don't see it, unless we go back to L7 and switch to K8]
;W[hk]WL[495.818]
;B[hl]BL[19.963]
;W[gl]WL[492.51]C[mafidufa [11k\]: this is the best game I've played in a while
mafidufa [11k\]: in terms of my play
NeilM [3k\]: You are doing fine, but be careful here of course
]
;B[ik]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[hj]WL[487.874]C[NeilM [3k\]: I extend to try to keep good shape
]
;B[ij]BL[252.361]
;W[ii]WL[483.534]C[mafidufa [11k\]: and i try to get out
NeilM [3k\]: Indeed
]
;B[ji]BL[206.98]
;W[jh]WL[467.518]C[mafidufa [11k\]: bad move
NeilM [3k\]: Not sure
Comment:At this point I read and pretty much decided I was locked in. Can I use this group to get position outside? Would I have had to do this earlier when there was more aji? I don't think I used the aji of this group very efficiently.
]
;B[hi]BL[159.172]
;W[ki]WL[459.502]
;B[gj]BL[146.709]
;W[gk]WL[456.444]
;B[gm]BL[131.281]
;W[fm]WL[446.702]
;B[gn]BL[112.488]
;W[hn]WL[440.846]C[NeilM [3k\]: Nearly worked
]
;B[fk]BL[89.664]
;W[fl]WL[437.702]
;B[fi]BL[78.911]
;W[hh]WL[434.135]
;B[gh]BL[64.149]C[mafidufa [11k\]: did you see a way?
NeilM [3k\]: Not sure
NeilM [3k\]: I thoght there was
NeilM [3k\]: Can see after
]
;W[dm]WL[412.884]C[mafidufa [11k\]: ok
NeilM [3k\]: Logical game so far
]
;B[ce]BL[29.211]
;W[fe]WL[375.721]
;B[ef]BL[9.006]
;W[ck]WL[360.63]
;B[cj]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jr]WL[354.869]
;B[ir]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[gr]WL[352.188]
(;B[gc]BL[265.163]
;W[gd]WL[347.738]C[mafidufa [11k\]: thanks for all the time
]
;B[hd]BL[259.423]C[NeilM [3k\]: No problem
mafidufa [11k\]: bad shape
NeilM [3k\]: Too nice a game to be time challenged
]
;W[fc]WL[332.473]
;B[gb]BL[245.003]
;W[lq]WL[329.453]
;B[kr]BL[211.117]
;W[kp]WL[325.178]
;B[mq]BL[176.459]
;W[lp]WL[316.371]
;B[lr]BL[165.879]
;W[he]WL[313.749]
;B[ie]BL[110.631]
;W[hc]WL[309.605]
;B[id]BL[366.663]
;W[hb]WL[304.666]
;B[ib]BL[336.5]
;W[fb]WL[301.625]
;B[ic]BL[333.508]
;W[ga]WL[300.483]
;B[hf]BL[328.656]
;W[kf]WL[296.274]
;B[le]BL[324.998]
;W[ke]WL[293.056]
;B[kd]BL[321.772]
;W[lf]WL[291.236]
;B[mf]BL[315.325]
;W[ia]WL[287.948]
;B[ja]BL[311.907]
;W[ha]WL[285.009]
;B[kb]BL[303.324]
;W[bk]WL[280.812]
;B[bj]BL[279.274]
;W[pp]WL[277.34]
;B[rq]BL[275.31]
;W[cd]WL[273.364]
;B[be]BL[270.598]C[NeilM [3k\]: How has the gam ebeen?
]
;W[ff]WL[265.159]C[NeilM [3k\]: game been?
NeilM [3k\]: A challenge for ne\]
NeilM [3k\]: me*
mafidufa [11k\]: interesting
]
;B[fg]BL[250.577]
;W[de]WL[258.852]C[mafidufa [11k\]: a few d'oh moments
]
;B[df]BL[245.193]C[NeilM [3k\]: Me too
]
;W[ee]WL[253.298]C[mafidufa [11k\]: but glad i didn't disgrace myself completly
NeilM [3k\]: Indeed
NeilM [3k\]: Many good plays
]
;B[qe]BL[192.248]C[NeilM [3k\]: I am playin Go via a web site
NeilM [3k\]: 1-3 moves a day
mafidufa [11k\]: a turn based server?
NeilM [3k\]: 3 games against 3 Japanese players in Jpapan
NeilM [3k\]: Yes
NeilM [3k\]: I get 3 stones handicap
NeilM [3k\]: Only now does one of then reveal his is 9 dan ...
NeilM [3k\]: So I experience much of what you experience here
]
;W[re]WL[200.409]C[NeilM [3k\]: You see why I played at R18 now
mafidufa [11k\]: this looking for a way to get into that but with that stone its solid
NeilM [3k\]: I think so
]
;B[bd]BL[73.056]C[NeilM [3k\]: B16 was noy next move
]
;W[bc]WL[179.755]C[NeilM [3k\]: my*
]
;B[ak]BL[339.216]
;W[al]WL[174.816]
;B[aj]BL[336.423]
;W[bm]WL[173.764]C[NeilM [3k\]: Good yose
]
;B[ac]BL[326.078]C[NeilM [3k\]: Perfect
]
;W[ad]WL[164.699]C[NeilM [3k\]: Careful
]
;B[ae]BL[236.956]
;W[ab]WL[157.565]C[mafidufa [11k\]: i think i don't die
NeilM [3k\]: Indeed
NeilM [3k\]: Just keep reading
NeilM [3k\]: reading is the essence of much of Go
]
(;B[ad]BL[203.898]
;W[cf]WL[152.584]
;B[bf]BL[201.274]C[NeilM [3k\]: Not a good idea
]
;W[cg]WL[145.206]
;B[bg]BL[196.464]
;W[eg]WL[140.373]C[mafidufa [11k\]: this is as far as i read
NeilM [3k\]: But you lose 2 stones
mafidufa [11k\]: but i read d13 not e13
NeilM [3k\]: And your moyo is depleted
NeilM [3k\]: OK
]
;B[eh]BL[158.356]C[NeilM [3k\]: Worth imprinting that shape in your mind
]
;W[dh]WL[129.563]C[NeilM [3k\]: And this one also
]
;B[ch]BL[147.075]
;W[dg]WL[126.244]C[mafidufa [11k\]: snapback
]
;B[di]BL[142.486]
;W[bb]WL[117.475]C[NeilM [3k\]: yes
]
(;B[rn]BL[118.973]C[Forgot to check if he had any more local moves]
;W[bh]WL[113.785]
;B[ah]BL[87.068]
;W[ci]WL[110.613]
;B[bi]BL[77.834]
;W[ch]WL[107.842]
;B[ag]BL[57.772]
;W[gi]WL[98.033]
(;B[qk]BL[36.895]
;W[ol]WL[93.856]
;B[hi]BL[32.072]
;W[gg]WL[91.905]
;B[hg]BL[6.938]
;W[gi]WL[85.569]
(;B[sl]BL[270.745]C[NeilM [3k\]: I need to eat real soon
]
;W[fh]WL[75.018]C[NeilM [3k\]: This was a mistake
NeilM [3k\]: Too big
]
;B[ei]BL[239.393]
;W[sm]WL[66.708]C[mafidufa [11k\]: dead?
NeilM [3k\]: 1 eyes
NeilM [3k\]: ish
mafidufa [11k\]: and lost my ko threat
NeilM [3k\]: Yea, sorry
]
;B[fj]BL[198.699]
;W[ek]WL[56.164]
;B[hs]BL[183.457]
;W[gs]WL[48.746]
;B[hr]BL[175.442]
;W[hq]WL[45.487]
;B[js]BL[170.012]
;W[pa]WL[42.209]
;B[oa]BL[166.814]
;W[ig]WL[40.445]
;B[jf]BL[146.971]
;W[if]WL[29.312]
;B[jg]BL[142.583]
;W[ih]WL[22.833]
;B[lg]BL[128.048]
;W[kg]WL[18.769]
;B[je]BL[126.034]
;W[kh]WL[17.824]
;B[el]BL[110.777]
;W[dk]WL[13.773]
;B[he]BL[91.604]
;W[sn]WL[2.693]
;B[so]BL[88.013]
(;W[gf]WL[30]OW[5]
(;B[md]BL[56.865]
;W[]WL[30]OW[5]C[mafidufa [11k\]: was n16 neccesary?
]
;B[]BL[56.865]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][qa][ra][sa][cb][db][eb][gb][rb][sb][ac][dc][ec][gc][rc][sc][ad][bd][dd][ed][rd][sd][ae][be][ce][se][af][bf][df][ef][rf][sf][ag][bg][fg][rg][sg][ah][eh][gh][sh][ai][bi][di][ei][fi][hi][ji][si][aj][bj][cj][dj][ej][fj][gj][ij][kj][rj][sj][ak][fk][ik][jk][kk][lk][pk][qk][rk][sk][bl][cl][dl][el][hl][il][jl][kl][ll][ml][nl][pl][ql][rl][sl][am][cm][em][gm][im][jm][km][lm][mm][nm][om][an][bn][cn][dn][en][fn][gn][in][jn][on][ao][bo][co][do][eo][fo][go][ko][lo][mo][oo][ap][bp][cp][dp][ep][gp][aq][bq][dq][eq][fq][gq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs]TB[ka][la][ma][na][jb][lb][mb][nb][jc][kc][lc][mc][nc][ld][nd][od][me][ne][oe][nf][ng][nh][ph][ni][ro][rp][sp][jq][qq][sq][jr][mr][nr][or][pr][rr][sr][is][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[NeilM [3k\]: Probablby not
NeilM [3k\]: Sorrabout score
NeilM [3k\]: Sorry*
mafidufa [11k\]: thanks for the game
NeilM [3k\]: The game was much less one sided than it looks
mafidufa [11k\]: haven't played much endgame
NeilM [3k\]: A few changes her eand there and a very different game
mafidufa [11k\]: yes i never felt completely lost
NeilM [3k\]: Must eat
NeilM [3k\]: Thanks again
NeilM [3k\]: Enjoy my web site
NeilM [3k\]: http://www.learngo.co.uk/Live/ListGames.php
mafidufa [11k\]: though i never felt like i was really winninng
mafidufa [11k\]: I'll check it out
])
(;B[]
;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[lc]
;B[kc]
;W[lb]
;B[la]
;W[ma]
;B[ka]
;W[jb]
;B[jc]
;W[jb]C[This is what I was afraid of. Wasn't sure if I could stop it so I just played N16.]))
(;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[lc]))
(;B[gf]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]C[Or this way]))
(;B[gg]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]C[Comment: Like this? Or is there something better?]
;W[hg]
;B[gf]
;W[ek]))
(;B[bh]C[Comment: Honte]))
(;B[cf]C[And ko. He even warned me. And I read. And read again. And didn't see E13. Anyway, moving on...]))
(;B[ec]C[Comment: Didn't think of this during the game. Does it work? Not sure of my variations, especially white's moves.]
;W[ed]
;B[fc]
(;W[dd]
;B[gc])
(;W[gc]
(;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[dd]
;W[dc])
(;B[dd]
;W[dc]
;B[gd]
;W[ff]
;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[jb]))))
(;AB[il]))
(;B[jl]C[This runs I think? Not sure what white's move would be.]
(;W[jn]
;B[hl])
(;W[hk]
;B[in])))
(;B[qj]C[Comment: I don't know why I thought I could get away with the hane. I was too focused on keeping the lower right disconnected and I thought this would let him connect.]
(;W[rj]
;B[rk]C[No connection])
(;W[rk]C[Connection?])))
(;B[og]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]
;W[qi]
(;B[pi]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[nh]C[Squeezing out the toothpaste])
(;B[oh]C[Better variation?]
;W[pi]
;B[oi])))
(;B[ln]C[Comment: Is this bigger?
]))
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[NeilM]PB[mafidufa]WR[3k]BR[11k]DT[2011-11-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[NeilM [3k\]: Hi
NeilM [3k\]: Have fun
]RE[W+144.50]
;B[pd]BL[893.438]C[mafidufa [11k\]: hi
NeilM [3k\]: You speak English?
]
;W[cc]WL[888.695]
;B[pq]BL[886.933]C[mafidufa [11k\]: yes i do
NeilM [3k\]: Hello?
NeilM [3k\]: OK
NeilM [3k\]: Cheers
]
;W[po]WL[877.737]
;B[np]BL[876.582]
;W[cq]WL[872.516]
;B[pk]BL[865.215]
;W[pm]WL[867.411]
;B[nl]BL[853.445]
;W[qq]WL[861.585]
;B[qr]BL[850.347]C[NeilM [3k\]: Nice play
NeilM [3k\]: I am very tired today
mafidufa [11k\]:
NeilM [3k\]: Hence the game request
mafidufa [11k\]: good to play a 3k
]
;W[no]WL[838.978]C[NeilM [3k\]: In theory ...
mafidufa [11k\]: I'm a bit nervous
NeilM [3k\]: No need
NeilM [3k\]: Relax and play the board not me
]
;B[mo]BL[824.629]
;W[op]WL[831.832]
;B[oq]BL[817.638]
;W[mp]WL[824.04]
;B[nq]BL[804.473]
;W[mn]WL[820.796]
;B[lo]BL[801.731]
;W[nn]WL[816.728]C[NeilM [3k\]: I play too fast - sorry
NeilM [3k\]: Hard to think with a dull head
]
(;B[qp]BL[778.892]C[mafidufa [11k\]: i generally play slowly
]
;W[ln]WL[802.105]C[mafidufa [11k\]: and run out of time
NeilM [3k\]: I can add time
NeilM [3k\]: Appreciate the game
]
;B[ko]BL[764.126]C[NeilM [3k\]: I appreciat ethe game
]
;W[fp]WL[793.58]
;B[qn]BL[742.772]C[mafidufa [11k\]: as do i
]
;W[jq]WL[779.513]
;B[kq]BL[723.756]
;W[pn]WL[775.078]
;B[qo]BL[720.224]C[NeilM [3k\]: A key to good Go is to keep seeing the whole board the whole time
]
;W[qm]WL[758.313]
;B[jd]BL[690.914]
;W[fd]WL[745.341]C[mafidufa [11k\]: it's something i struggle with
]
;B[ge]BL[674.066]LB[gc:B][ce:A]C[NeilM [3k\]: So you have a key aspect of your gae that you can improve - to work on
Comment: NeilM says a few moves later that this wasn't really right globally. I don't feel right about it but I don't know how else to respond to this. A seems to be just asking for a pincer. Up until a week ago I would have played B instinctively but there was that whole analysis of shoulder hits and armpit hits in the 1986 vs Hailthorn Malkovich.
]
;W[qf]WL[734.787]
;B[qh]BL[663.626]C[NeilM [3k\]: I run a Go web site - it may help you
NeilM [3k\]: http://www.learngo.co.uk/Live/ListGames.php
NeilM [3k\]: Nearly 150 very detailed game commentaries
NeilM [3k\]: Each taks me 3-7 hours to write
]
;W[qc]WL[704.127]C[NeilM [3k\]: takes*
mafidufa [11k\]: cool
]
;B[pc]BL[652.871]C[Comment: I was just reading about this pincer on SL and I blocked this way because I have the K16 stone. This right?
]
;W[qd]WL[700.773]
;B[pe]BL[646.162]C[mafidufa [11k\]: thanks for taking the time
]
;W[qg]WL[696.455]C[NeilM [3k\]: No worries
]
(;B[pg]BL[621.766]C[NeilM [3k\]: G15, for example, was a local respoinse to my move, but not so key on a global scale
]
;W[pf]WL[680.898]C[NeilM [3k\]: Excuse my typos - I spell check my gam ecommentaries
]
;B[of]BL[563.033]
;W[ph]WL[660.106]
;B[og]BL[528.599]
;W[rh]WL[651.678]C[NeilM [3k\]: I make a mistake
NeilM [3k\]: Oh well
mafidufa [11k\]: it looked weird
]
;B[qi]BL[486.939]
;W[pb]WL[645.462]C[mafidufa [11k\]: but i thought it was a trick
]
;B[ob]BL[472.639]
;W[qb]WL[641.607]
;B[oc]BL[463.392]
;W[ri]WL[639.269]C[NeilM [3k\]: r15 weakness was too much my focus
]
(;B[rj]BL[429.237]
;W[qj]WL[636.136]
;B[pi]BL[420.269]C[NeilM [3k\]: s10 not good
]
;W[pj]WL[633.078]C[mafidufa [11k\]: yes r9 better?
NeilM [3k\]: r10
]
;B[oi]BL[395.238]
;W[oj]WL[629.375]C[NeilM [3k\]: So I can help my group below
mafidufa [11k\]: yes r10
]
;B[nj]BL[369.331]
;W[ni]WL[626.029]
;B[oh]BL[360.08]
;W[nk]WL[620.813]
;B[mj]BL[348.205]
;W[rm]WL[605.746]
;B[ll]BL[317.671]
;W[ok]WL[594.386]
;B[dj]BL[240.742]
;W[mk]WL[584.955]C[NeilM [3k\]: d10 very good
]
;B[lk]BL[230.557]
;W[lj]WL[573.304]C[mafidufa [11k\]: trying to remember to tenuki once in a while
]
;B[mi]BL[216.691]
;W[li]WL[565.93]
;B[mh]BL[211.266]
;W[lh]WL[558.061]
;B[mg]BL[198.138]
;W[jj]WL[549.664]
(;B[km]BL[174.632]
;W[kn]WL[545.058]
;B[jn]BL[148.13]C[NeilM [3k\]: I targeted your M8 stones as a way of reducing your moyou above a little
]
;W[jo]WL[537.245]
;B[jp]BL[128.04]
;W[io]WL[528.532]
;B[ip]BL[98.066]
;W[hp]WL[521.358]C[NeilM [3k\]: It is really good that you take time to thinkk clearly like this
]
;B[in]BL[65.961]C[NeilM [3k\]: This should get you moving up the ranks
]
;W[ho]WL[513.566]
;B[iq]BL[59.023]
;W[hm]WL[507.284]
(;B[il]BL[27.587]C[Comment: Can I get out? Neil thought so. I don't see it, unless we go back to L7 and switch to K8]
;W[hk]WL[495.818]
;B[hl]BL[19.963]
;W[gl]WL[492.51]C[mafidufa [11k\]: this is the best game I've played in a while
mafidufa [11k\]: in terms of my play
NeilM [3k\]: You are doing fine, but be careful here of course
]
;B[ik]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[hj]WL[487.874]C[NeilM [3k\]: I extend to try to keep good shape
]
;B[ij]BL[252.361]
;W[ii]WL[483.534]C[mafidufa [11k\]: and i try to get out
NeilM [3k\]: Indeed
]
;B[ji]BL[206.98]
;W[jh]WL[467.518]C[mafidufa [11k\]: bad move
NeilM [3k\]: Not sure
Comment:At this point I read and pretty much decided I was locked in. Can I use this group to get position outside? Would I have had to do this earlier when there was more aji? I don't think I used the aji of this group very efficiently.
]
;B[hi]BL[159.172]
;W[ki]WL[459.502]
;B[gj]BL[146.709]
;W[gk]WL[456.444]
;B[gm]BL[131.281]
;W[fm]WL[446.702]
;B[gn]BL[112.488]
;W[hn]WL[440.846]C[NeilM [3k\]: Nearly worked
]
;B[fk]BL[89.664]
;W[fl]WL[437.702]
;B[fi]BL[78.911]
;W[hh]WL[434.135]
;B[gh]BL[64.149]C[mafidufa [11k\]: did you see a way?
NeilM [3k\]: Not sure
NeilM [3k\]: I thoght there was
NeilM [3k\]: Can see after
]
;W[dm]WL[412.884]C[mafidufa [11k\]: ok
NeilM [3k\]: Logical game so far
]
;B[ce]BL[29.211]
;W[fe]WL[375.721]
;B[ef]BL[9.006]
;W[ck]WL[360.63]
;B[cj]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jr]WL[354.869]
;B[ir]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[gr]WL[352.188]
(;B[gc]BL[265.163]
;W[gd]WL[347.738]C[mafidufa [11k\]: thanks for all the time
]
;B[hd]BL[259.423]C[NeilM [3k\]: No problem
mafidufa [11k\]: bad shape
NeilM [3k\]: Too nice a game to be time challenged
]
;W[fc]WL[332.473]
;B[gb]BL[245.003]
;W[lq]WL[329.453]
;B[kr]BL[211.117]
;W[kp]WL[325.178]
;B[mq]BL[176.459]
;W[lp]WL[316.371]
;B[lr]BL[165.879]
;W[he]WL[313.749]
;B[ie]BL[110.631]
;W[hc]WL[309.605]
;B[id]BL[366.663]
;W[hb]WL[304.666]
;B[ib]BL[336.5]
;W[fb]WL[301.625]
;B[ic]BL[333.508]
;W[ga]WL[300.483]
;B[hf]BL[328.656]
;W[kf]WL[296.274]
;B[le]BL[324.998]
;W[ke]WL[293.056]
;B[kd]BL[321.772]
;W[lf]WL[291.236]
;B[mf]BL[315.325]
;W[ia]WL[287.948]
;B[ja]BL[311.907]
;W[ha]WL[285.009]
;B[kb]BL[303.324]
;W[bk]WL[280.812]
;B[bj]BL[279.274]
;W[pp]WL[277.34]
;B[rq]BL[275.31]
;W[cd]WL[273.364]
;B[be]BL[270.598]C[NeilM [3k\]: How has the gam ebeen?
]
;W[ff]WL[265.159]C[NeilM [3k\]: game been?
NeilM [3k\]: A challenge for ne\]
NeilM [3k\]: me*
mafidufa [11k\]: interesting
]
;B[fg]BL[250.577]
;W[de]WL[258.852]C[mafidufa [11k\]: a few d'oh moments
]
;B[df]BL[245.193]C[NeilM [3k\]: Me too
]
;W[ee]WL[253.298]C[mafidufa [11k\]: but glad i didn't disgrace myself completly
NeilM [3k\]: Indeed
NeilM [3k\]: Many good plays
]
;B[qe]BL[192.248]C[NeilM [3k\]: I am playin Go via a web site
NeilM [3k\]: 1-3 moves a day
mafidufa [11k\]: a turn based server?
NeilM [3k\]: 3 games against 3 Japanese players in Jpapan
NeilM [3k\]: Yes
NeilM [3k\]: I get 3 stones handicap
NeilM [3k\]: Only now does one of then reveal his is 9 dan ...
NeilM [3k\]: So I experience much of what you experience here
]
;W[re]WL[200.409]C[NeilM [3k\]: You see why I played at R18 now
mafidufa [11k\]: this looking for a way to get into that but with that stone its solid
NeilM [3k\]: I think so
]
;B[bd]BL[73.056]C[NeilM [3k\]: B16 was noy next move
]
;W[bc]WL[179.755]C[NeilM [3k\]: my*
]
;B[ak]BL[339.216]
;W[al]WL[174.816]
;B[aj]BL[336.423]
;W[bm]WL[173.764]C[NeilM [3k\]: Good yose
]
;B[ac]BL[326.078]C[NeilM [3k\]: Perfect
]
;W[ad]WL[164.699]C[NeilM [3k\]: Careful
]
;B[ae]BL[236.956]
;W[ab]WL[157.565]C[mafidufa [11k\]: i think i don't die
NeilM [3k\]: Indeed
NeilM [3k\]: Just keep reading
NeilM [3k\]: reading is the essence of much of Go
]
(;B[ad]BL[203.898]
;W[cf]WL[152.584]
;B[bf]BL[201.274]C[NeilM [3k\]: Not a good idea
]
;W[cg]WL[145.206]
;B[bg]BL[196.464]
;W[eg]WL[140.373]C[mafidufa [11k\]: this is as far as i read
NeilM [3k\]: But you lose 2 stones
mafidufa [11k\]: but i read d13 not e13
NeilM [3k\]: And your moyo is depleted
NeilM [3k\]: OK
]
;B[eh]BL[158.356]C[NeilM [3k\]: Worth imprinting that shape in your mind
]
;W[dh]WL[129.563]C[NeilM [3k\]: And this one also
]
;B[ch]BL[147.075]
;W[dg]WL[126.244]C[mafidufa [11k\]: snapback
]
;B[di]BL[142.486]
;W[bb]WL[117.475]C[NeilM [3k\]: yes
]
(;B[rn]BL[118.973]C[Forgot to check if he had any more local moves]
;W[bh]WL[113.785]
;B[ah]BL[87.068]
;W[ci]WL[110.613]
;B[bi]BL[77.834]
;W[ch]WL[107.842]
;B[ag]BL[57.772]
;W[gi]WL[98.033]
(;B[qk]BL[36.895]
;W[ol]WL[93.856]
;B[hi]BL[32.072]
;W[gg]WL[91.905]
;B[hg]BL[6.938]
;W[gi]WL[85.569]
(;B[sl]BL[270.745]C[NeilM [3k\]: I need to eat real soon
]
;W[fh]WL[75.018]C[NeilM [3k\]: This was a mistake
NeilM [3k\]: Too big
]
;B[ei]BL[239.393]
;W[sm]WL[66.708]C[mafidufa [11k\]: dead?
NeilM [3k\]: 1 eyes
NeilM [3k\]: ish
mafidufa [11k\]: and lost my ko threat
NeilM [3k\]: Yea, sorry
]
;B[fj]BL[198.699]
;W[ek]WL[56.164]
;B[hs]BL[183.457]
;W[gs]WL[48.746]
;B[hr]BL[175.442]
;W[hq]WL[45.487]
;B[js]BL[170.012]
;W[pa]WL[42.209]
;B[oa]BL[166.814]
;W[ig]WL[40.445]
;B[jf]BL[146.971]
;W[if]WL[29.312]
;B[jg]BL[142.583]
;W[ih]WL[22.833]
;B[lg]BL[128.048]
;W[kg]WL[18.769]
;B[je]BL[126.034]
;W[kh]WL[17.824]
;B[el]BL[110.777]
;W[dk]WL[13.773]
;B[he]BL[91.604]
;W[sn]WL[2.693]
;B[so]BL[88.013]
(;W[gf]WL[30]OW[5]
(;B[md]BL[56.865]
;W[]WL[30]OW[5]C[mafidufa [11k\]: was n16 neccesary?
]
;B[]BL[56.865]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][qa][ra][sa][cb][db][eb][gb][rb][sb][ac][dc][ec][gc][rc][sc][ad][bd][dd][ed][rd][sd][ae][be][ce][se][af][bf][df][ef][rf][sf][ag][bg][fg][rg][sg][ah][eh][gh][sh][ai][bi][di][ei][fi][hi][ji][si][aj][bj][cj][dj][ej][fj][gj][ij][kj][rj][sj][ak][fk][ik][jk][kk][lk][pk][qk][rk][sk][bl][cl][dl][el][hl][il][jl][kl][ll][ml][nl][pl][ql][rl][sl][am][cm][em][gm][im][jm][km][lm][mm][nm][om][an][bn][cn][dn][en][fn][gn][in][jn][on][ao][bo][co][do][eo][fo][go][ko][lo][mo][oo][ap][bp][cp][dp][ep][gp][aq][bq][dq][eq][fq][gq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs]TB[ka][la][ma][na][jb][lb][mb][nb][jc][kc][lc][mc][nc][ld][nd][od][me][ne][oe][nf][ng][nh][ph][ni][ro][rp][sp][jq][qq][sq][jr][mr][nr][or][pr][rr][sr][is][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[NeilM [3k\]: Probablby not
NeilM [3k\]: Sorrabout score
NeilM [3k\]: Sorry*
mafidufa [11k\]: thanks for the game
NeilM [3k\]: The game was much less one sided than it looks
mafidufa [11k\]: haven't played much endgame
NeilM [3k\]: A few changes her eand there and a very different game
mafidufa [11k\]: yes i never felt completely lost
NeilM [3k\]: Must eat
NeilM [3k\]: Thanks again
NeilM [3k\]: Enjoy my web site
NeilM [3k\]: http://www.learngo.co.uk/Live/ListGames.php
mafidufa [11k\]: though i never felt like i was really winninng
mafidufa [11k\]: I'll check it out
])
(;B[]
;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[lc]
;B[kc]
;W[lb]
;B[la]
;W[ma]
;B[ka]
;W[jb]
;B[jc]
;W[jb]C[This is what I was afraid of. Wasn't sure if I could stop it so I just played N16.]))
(;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[lc]))
(;B[gf]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]C[Or this way]))
(;B[gg]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]C[Comment: Like this? Or is there something better?]
;W[hg]
;B[gf]
;W[ek]))
(;B[bh]C[Comment: Honte]))
(;B[cf]C[And ko. He even warned me. And I read. And read again. And didn't see E13. Anyway, moving on...]))
(;B[ec]C[Comment: Didn't think of this during the game. Does it work? Not sure of my variations, especially white's moves.]
;W[ed]
;B[fc]
(;W[dd]
;B[gc])
(;W[gc]
(;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[dd]
;W[dc])
(;B[dd]
;W[dc]
;B[gd]
;W[ff]
;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[jb]))))
(;AB[il]))
(;B[jl]C[This runs I think? Not sure what white's move would be.]
(;W[jn]
;B[hl])
(;W[hk]
;B[in])))
(;B[qj]C[Comment: I don't know why I thought I could get away with the hane. I was too focused on keeping the lower right disconnected and I thought this would let him connect.]
(;W[rj]
;B[rk]C[No connection])
(;W[rk]C[Connection?])))
(;B[og]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]
;W[qi]
(;B[pi]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[nh]C[Squeezing out the toothpaste])
(;B[oh]C[Better variation?]
;W[pi]
;B[oi])))
(;B[ln]C[Comment: Is this bigger?
]))
Here's a game on KGS against a 3k. I lost badly but most of that was a bad endgame, losing a big group. Though I'm pretty sure I was losing before that too. I self-reviewed (in the sgf) and made some variations and one thing I'm wondering is if they are any good because sometimes my variations are... dubious? Plus anything else I missed would be appreciated.