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You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:51 pm
by sparkydave
I was playing Igowin on my iPad, and won a game - without realizing it. Still trying to learn defense mostly, and I can't seem to get below 28 kyu. Well, tonight I was playing, missed connecting two chains, and thought for sure I was going to lose big time. I had a few chains and eyes around, but no double eyes. I tried an eye in one corner, and on a hint from the game, played one piece and captured the majority of the other pieces! It was such a shock I thought the ones that suddenly disappeared were mine. At that point, the only area the iPad had was pretty minor. At that point it resigned. Weird, I usually don't succeed if I try to make a capture, but this one was shear dumb luck on my part.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:41 pm
by JarrodCL
When someone gives you a 13 stone handicap and you lose... :(

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:56 am
by Loons
...When you 10 stone self-atari.

Also, believe you me, you can make it to low dan on dumb luck. 'dumb luck' is some kind of manifestation of skill.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:21 am
by tj86430
Loons wrote:'dumb luck' is some kind of manifestation of skill.

Is this the "the more I practice the luckier I get" -effect?

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:14 am
by entropi
...you are surprised when your opponent deviates from joseki and still gets a better result.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:37 am
by Celebrir
Loons wrote:...When you 10 stone self-atari.

Also, believe you me, you can make it to low dan on dumb luck. 'dumb luck' is some kind of manifestation of skill.


Okay, it is not 10 stone large but if I make a big mistake thinking about this prevents me from losing my spirit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE

... if you wonder why you lost a game even if you got all four corners.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:40 am
by otenki
... you think you are playing sente moves but your oponent just keeps tenuki'n away.

(happens to me a lot when playing stronger players :-) )

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:45 am
by jts
Celebrir wrote:Okay, it is not 10 stone large but if I make a big mistake thinking about this prevents me from losing my spirit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE

Yes, more like thirty stone large.

... when your forcing moves are gote.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:27 am
by Celebrir
jts wrote:
Celebrir wrote:Okay, it is not 10 stone large but if I make a big mistake thinking about this prevents me from losing my spirit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE

Yes, more like thirty stone large.


I counted 31 stones ;)

... if you wonder why everyone mentions eyes on the board even if there are clearly only stones... (Or could the eyes of the fly which just crawls over the board have an influence on the game ? oO)

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:28 am
by Uberdude
... you play a time-tesuji to read if you can kill a group by ko or unconditionally and then forget to kill it afterwards. (Did this in my last European Teams Tournament game!)

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:19 am
by Bill Spight
You lose three groups every game.

You play self atari in a seki.

You make a ko threat to kill a group, and it actually kills it!

You read out a local region and find the best play, only to later realize you should have played somewhere else.

You are playing in a simul, and when your opponent comes around, he can't find your last play.

You play atari on the second line and try to remove the ataried stone.

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All but one from my own experience. ;)

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:23 am
by blade90
...you reduce your opponents territory with a dead group and still wonder why your opponent tenukis all the time.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:44 pm
by hyperpape
Celebrir wrote:
jts wrote:
Celebrir wrote:Okay, it is not 10 stone large but if I make a big mistake thinking about this prevents me from losing my spirit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE

Yes, more like thirty stone large.


I counted 31 stones ;)

... if you wonder why everyone mentions eyes on the board even if there are clearly only stones... (Or could the eyes of the fly which just crawls over the board have an influence on the game ? oO)
I've seen that many times. This the first time I noticed it killed his group.

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:01 pm
by coderboy
... when your opponent resigns and you suddenly see that you killed a large group of his without even realizing it.

Happened in a big tournament I played in. :)

Re: You know you're still a beginner when...

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:32 pm
by judicata
Bill Spight wrote:.

You are playing in a simul, and when your opponent comes around, he can't find your last play.



Relatedly, I played a simul with a pro the other day. When we reviewed, I knew my move was bad when she couldn't remember it. :) She also remembered some of my bad moves, but I think it was because they were so bad they really stood out.