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San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:25 am
by Xaos
searching around for resources I came across this site
http://sanrensei.info/there is a choose the best move test,and i took it and got this result:
Your score is 220 from 300
You know a lot about using influence, but you don't like to play all-or-nothing games or games where you must kill your opponent's group inside of your moyo.
We might recommend that you use other influence-oriented fusekis, such as the Chinese family of fusekis (Low, High, Mini), takamoku-based openings, or tengen.
All of these openings are more flexible than san-ren-sei and it's usually possible to switch from influence to territory if the position requires itit says I know about using influence but I don't even know what influence in Go means. Can someone point me in the right direction here as to what the eval means. Thanks.
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:56 am
by illluck
Your score is 240 from 300
San-ren-sei is a perfect choice for you!
We cannot promise that you will win all of your games when you use it, but we are sure that every game you play where san-ren-sei appears will be very exciting and enjoyable for you!
Awesome, I'll start sanrensei now
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:32 am
by tchan001
Xaos wrote:it says I know about using influence but I don't even know what influence in Go means. Can someone point me in the right direction here as to what the eval means. Thanks.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?Influencehttp://www.yutopian.com/go/bookeg/PAY07.html
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:01 am
by Xaos
even that senseis definition is a bit ambiguous, but thanks, i'll look through the references they have..
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:39 am
by Uberdude
Let me introduce Robert Jasiek:
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:49 am
by Xaos
Uberdude wrote:Let me introduce Robert Jasiek:
wow never saw that page thanks..
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:06 pm
by Boidhre
Your score is 215 from 300
You know a lot about using influence, but you don't like to play all-or-nothing games or games where you must kill your opponent's group inside of your moyo.
We might recommend that you use other influence-oriented fusekis, such as the Chinese family of fusekis (Low, High, Mini), takamoku-based openings, or tengen.
All of these openings are more flexible than san-ren-sei and it's usually possible to switch from influence to territory if the position requires it.
Meh. My understanding of influence is primitive at best. I must go look up the takamoku based openings though, have never heard of them before.
That I score this highly in the test given I've neither played nor studied nor played against the san-ren-sei makes me suspicious that I'm being sold something.
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:19 pm
by Bonobo
Your score is 225 from 300
San-ren-sei is a perfect choice for you!
We cannot promise that you will win all of your games when you use it, but we are sure that every game you play where san-ren-sei appears will be very exciting and enjoyable for you!
For me as a mere KGS 9k with question mark this seems surprising.
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:07 pm
by shapenaji
I got 260 out of 300... mostly I just kept asking myself "What kind of crazy move would takemiya play here..."
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:27 pm
by gowan
FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:46 pm
by illluck
gowan wrote:FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.
Darn, I guess I'll have to stick with double sansan...
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:46 am
by speedchase
gowan wrote:FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.
No it doesn't 0- 300 isn't skill its how well you could use sanrensei. if we took that test randomly 100 times i would expect the average to be close to 150, not 60.
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:12 am
by Bill Spight
gowan wrote:FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.
Here is another hint:
It was tested on different level players from 20-kyu to 7-dan, but most accurate for single digit kyus.
Sounds random to me.
Seriously, what does "most accurate" mean? How would you validate the test results? Not by rank, surely.
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:18 am
by speedchase
Bill Spight wrote:Sounds random to me.
Seriously, what does "most accurate" mean? How would you validate the test results? Not by rank, surely.
Perhaps based on how much they actually liked sanrensei?
Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:24 am
by Bill Spight
FWIW, I scored 285.