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Teacher Review Service

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:41 am
by Javaness2
Hi,

I am offering a new an exciting service. The first Go Teacher review service!

Go Teachers or Prospective Students can both contact me to avail of this service.
Prices are as follows: Regular lesson price of teacher + 10% cut, with additional 10 euro charge for publishing the review. Additional special goodwill payments accepted

I have taken Go lessons with many teachers, in addition to which I have over 15 years of experience in the public education system. This leaves me very well placed to assess the teaching skills of whoever is paying me.

Love,
Javaness

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:28 pm
by ez4u
Javaness2 wrote:Hi,

I am offering a new an exciting service. The first Go Teacher review service!

Go Teachers or Prospective Students can both contact me to avail of this service.
Prices are as follows: Regular lesson price of teacher + 10% cut, with additional 10 euro charge for publishing the review. Additional special goodwill payments accepted

I have taken Go lessons with many teachers, in addition to which I have over 15 years of experience in the public education system. This leaves me very well placed to assess the teaching skills of whoever is paying me.

Love,
Javaness

Could you post your rank graph? I know that I have opinions on a lot of teachers (not ones on KGS though). However, my demonstrated lack of progress under any of them makes me doubt my qualification to assess them! :blackeye:

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 pm
by RobertJasiek
ez4u wrote:my demonstrated lack of progress under any of them


Forgetting about boring parody for a moment and ignoring the principle possibility that you might have already hit the boundary of your upper potential, typically pupils taking lessons do not make progress if they do not also a) apply advice, b) play regularly, c) review their own games, d) study go theory in literature and e) solve problems. Most pupils doing all of that improve quickly.

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:25 pm
by illluck
Potential issues:

1. One lesson (if that's the plan) is not sufficient to evaluate a teacher, especially not for one-on-one instruction.
2. People learn differently - each teacher has their own style.
3. Teachers may have comparative advantages over difference student strength ranges.

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:18 pm
by ez4u
RobertJasiek wrote:
ez4u wrote:my demonstrated lack of progress under any of them


Forgetting about boring parody for a moment and ignoring the principle possibility that you might have already hit the boundary of your upper potential, typically pupils taking lessons do not make progress if they do not also a) apply advice, b) play regularly, c) review their own games, d) study go theory in literature and e) solve problems. Most pupils doing all of that improve quickly.

Yes! So what then are the qualities of a good teacher? :blackeye:

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:23 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
ez4u wrote:
RobertJasiek wrote:
ez4u wrote:my demonstrated lack of progress under any of them


Forgetting about boring parody for a moment and ignoring the principle possibility that you might have already hit the boundary of your upper potential, typically pupils taking lessons do not make progress if they do not also a) apply advice, b) play regularly, c) review their own games, d) study go theory in literature and e) solve problems. Most pupils doing all of that improve quickly.

Yes! So what then are the qualities of a good teacher? :blackeye:


Persuading students to a) apply advice, b) play regularly, c) review their own games, d) study go theory in literature and e) solve problems. :mrgreen:

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:56 am
by RobertJasiek
ez4u wrote:So what then are the qualities of a good teacher


- adjusting his teaching to a pupil's learning style
- identifying, explaining and correcting a pupil's (especially: important) weaknesses reasonably quickly
- answering 99% of a pupil's questions well (the 1% may be related to moves of almost identical value or the teacher's limited knowledge)
- motivating a pupil to do the also necessary study outside outside the lessons

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:01 am
by tchan001
What are the advantages of using your services versus freely asking a bunch of people similar to one's own level who have taken go lessons for their recommendation as to go teachers they have studied under?

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:50 am
by daal
I teach for free. Please make an appointment to evaluate my lesson. To get an idea of my teaching style, you may read my sample lesson below, free of charge:

Sample lesson.

Your reading is weak, very weak. You must read deeper. To practice, do more tsumego. Much too weak. :-x


For a minor gratuity, I will prepare your review for you in advance.

***June two-for-one special*** For an additional fee, I will invite a teacher of your choice to co-teach.

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:05 am
by Uberdude
ez4u wrote:Could you post your rank graph?


Here is my KGS rank graph with my time in China on the Go'n'Games trip highlighted (teachers included Li Siyuan aka Tom 5d, Su Yang aka Jeff Chang 5d, Will Zhang 6d, Liu Yuanbo aka Milanmilan 2p, ??? aka Ben). If only I'd stayed there a year I'd be 9 dan by now! :D

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Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:58 am
by Jedo
Out of curiosity, does Go n games still exist?

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:03 pm
by Uberdude
I don't think so, but a lot of the teachers from it split off to make the Experience Go in China trip which is similar.

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:50 pm
by Javaness2
illluck wrote:Potential issues:

1. One lesson (if that's the plan) is not sufficient to evaluate a teacher, especially not for one-on-one instruction.
2. People learn differently - each teacher has their own style.
3. Teachers may have comparative advantages over difference student strength ranges.


I have already thought of these problems. By paying me to take multiple lessons with the same professional, you can overcome any such fears.
I can also cope with 3, by thinking for shorter periods of time, and distracting myself during the game.

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:56 pm
by gowan
Javaness2 wrote:
illluck wrote:Potential issues:

1. One lesson (if that's the plan) is not sufficient to evaluate a teacher, especially not for one-on-one instruction.
2. People learn differently - each teacher has their own style.
3. Teachers may have comparative advantages over difference student strength ranges.


I have already thought of these problems. By paying me to take multiple lessons with the same professional, you can overcome any such fears.
I can also cope with 3, by thinking for shorter periods of time, and distracting myself during the game.


A good way to get free lessons. Way to go Javaness2 :clap:

Re: Teacher Review Service

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:26 pm
by illluck
I think I've just missed the point of this thread rather spectacularly... :oops: