Life In 19x19

Hello! I'm just posting for all beginner go players out there who feel overwhelmed in the opening. Joseki is a great place to start if you want your opening game to improve, and it can really teach you opening basics. I just started a video series that shows you the joseki, as oppose to reading a diagram, which I think would be very helpful for a lot of players. Give it a watch! I hope it helps The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQVaTluo ... ture=g-upl

Just a quick comment, the move you played in that joseki is a 1-point extension rather than the 2-point.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . 4 . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
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6 instead of "a".

ohhh yknow, I knew that was the correct way from the books, but I always play the one point jump instead of the 2 point jump just as a personal preference, and I think I played it that way during the video without realizing it hahaha. In my next one I'll how the other way.

It is not a matter of personal preference but about reading verifying connection and thus knowing the farthest connected extension.

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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 1 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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gallucci wrote:ohhh yknow, I knew that was the correct way from the books, but I always play the one point jump instead of the 2 point jump just as a personal preference, and I think I played it that way during the video without realizing it hahaha. In my next one I'll how the other way.

I think the idea of doing videos for beginners is great, but two minor observations:

1) Weaker than KGS 10 kyu (presumably where you're aiming these as that's your professed rank), joseki understanding isn't really so important. Getting to grips with tesujis, basic principles, and life and death is more valuable. Videos on life and death reading techniques for example.

2) The fact you play the one point jump by preference means you don't really understand the joseki yourself, which does beg the question of whether you should be instructing beginners in it

also, when you make more videos, you should talk about the global context that the joseki are good for.
edit: also http://gooften.net/2012/01/26/excerpt-f ... ic-joseki/.

gallucci, it's nice that you are enthusiastic about Go and want to help other beginners.
Perhaps it would be even more useful and helpful both for yourself and for your audience
if you could take the advice from the more experienced people here and re-do your video(s).
(For example, the 2-space extension for W in your first joseki.)

At about 00:04:03, for your first joseki, when W approaches
with the small knight, you said "...either above (a), or below (b)...":

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$$ | . . . . . b . .
$$ | . . . X . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . a . . . . .
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Your intention here was good. However, "above" and "below" already
have their existing specific meanings when describing certain Go moves and situations.
So your usage here seems a little... strange. Clearly, for an empty board,
(a) and (b) are 100% symmetric and therefore Identical.

So you can think about rephrasing it to something like:
- "...from this side, or from this side..."
- "...from here, or from here..."
- "...from this direction, or from this direction..."
- "...from the left (a), or from the top (b)..." (viewer's perspective, not yours during the recording )
and mention the fact that both approaches are identical for an empty board.

Details like these are very important, especially in Go. Good luck.