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Lifein19x19 as a player (Legion game)
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:30 am
by Alguien
[UPDATE]
- The legion player has been created.
- We have the blessing of the server owner.
- The list of players is up for registration.
[TO DO]
Once the list is filled and the private sub-forum has been set up, we'll ask for a game in the server.
[old thread]
The forum could work as a player in a turn based server.
Someone creates the user, finds a game with Fisher time 2days/move, set up a pool for each move and we discuss.
We vote and the user plays the most voted move.

(then we propose a korean forum to do the same and we challenge them!)
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:38 am
by Splatted
Lol, that sounds fun! XD
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:53 am
by Phelan
I think DGS supports shared accounts, I remember reading something about it, but can't find it now.
OGS' terms seem to prohibit it, though.
Interesting idea!

Edit: I might have been confusing
The Go Teacher account with general multiple players per account. It's probably best to ask in their forum.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:30 am
by Alguien
I've asked in DGS's forums.
One problem might be to play against one opponent who can clearly enter the forum and read all our tricky strategies and the predicted outcomes of every move.
I don't think we could have such an account without stating to our opponents that it's played by several people.
On the other hand, I suppose LI19x19 would play, with this system, at least at a 4d-5d level, so I suppose that we could get a mature and serious opponent who wouldn't lurk the forum to check our discussions.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:45 am
by illluck
I don't think OGS will prohibit this either

Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:48 am
by topazg
illluck wrote:I don't think OGS will prohibit this either

Agreed. There are restriction in there, but they're really for sandbagging / gaming the system etc. This isn't really going against the spirit of the restriction (which I wrote originally, so unless it's changed since then ..) - I'm pretty certain something like this would be perfectly ok

Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:56 am
by OtakuViking
I really like this idea. Would love if it became a reality ^_^
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:00 am
by jts
I think this would end like joaz's dankovitch.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:54 am
by Shaddy
I don't think the forum as a collective could play at a 4-5d level. As evidence, I present the dankovich game.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:21 am
by karaklis
This reminds me a bit of
WuRengo.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:50 pm
by Boidhre
Alguien wrote:I've asked in DGS's forums.
One problem might be to play against one opponent who can clearly enter the forum and read all our tricky strategies and the predicted outcomes of every move.
I don't think we could have such an account without stating to our opponents that it's played by several people.
On the other hand, I suppose LI19x19 would play, with this system, at least at a 4d-5d level, so I suppose that we could get a mature and serious opponent who wouldn't lurk the forum to check our discussions.
Or just have a private forum for the purpose.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:08 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Boidhre wrote:...
Or just have a private forum for the purpose.
[admin]
That can be done. I'd need to know who is participating. Give me a list of names, and I'll create it.
[/admin]
BTW ( in non-admin mode ) we tried this before. Voting and scheduling became way more work than we had imagined. I do hope that you succeed where we failed.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:33 pm
by speedchase
That sounds like fun (although I don't think we would play very well). either way, I would participate. I think we should try it

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Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:56 pm
by Splatted
How about we designate a certain time each day at which point the move that has the most votes gets played. If multiple moves have the same number of votes we can just let the move-maker chose. That way the moves get made at a reasonable rate and it's easy to organise. Participating players can join in when they have the time/inclination but they don't have to worry about holding up the game.
Voting for moves could be done by posting diagrams and people liking the ones they want to play. Triggers would also work though each move would have to have a post of it's own.
Re: Lifein19x19 as a player
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:12 am
by Alguien
I've created the DGS account.
http://www.dragongoserver.net/userinfo.php?uid=73347With the private forum solution in mind, I'd propose the following organization.
- There is one owner of the game, the stone placer. He is the user who plays each move in DGS. I'm talking with Jug about sharing the account's pass to account for holidays, etc.
- There is only one "official" thread per move: the voting thread.
- The voting thread is created by the stone placer with the last position.
- The voting thread is for voting only. Just "R4".
- All discussion about what to play can be done in other threads and people would be free to create them and read them all to see what path they agree with.
- Once every X time (two days?), the stone placer posts a "LAST VOTE" post in the playing thread, counts the votes and plays on the most voted position.
- When the move is answered, the stone placer creates a new voting thread with just the position and people can start chatting in the other threads about what to play next.
- The stone placer only votes in case of draw, so there is no draw problem.