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Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:12 am
by Alberich
I purchased the Yunzi stones recently (double convex, 9.2 mm) and I like them alot. But I'm curious about the longevity of the color of the stones. I ask this because I'm wondering if the design of the stones cause color degredation.
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:44 am
by Twitchy Go
As I understand it, Yunzi stones get better looking with time. They absorb the oil from your hands/fingers and start to get a shine to them.
(I'm by no means an expert though so I could be hallucinating about this)
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:48 am
by xed_over
they are just glass.
edit: otherwise, you're thinking of clamshell stones which do absorb the oils from your hands and may change color over time.
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:36 am
by Alberich
Yunzi stones are glass?! I thought they weren't.
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:47 am
by Inkwolf
Alberich wrote:Yunzi stones are glass?! I thought they weren't.
The formula is a secret, and contains powdered rock and minerals. But it's somewhat glass-like, in any case, and if you've ever seen one chipped, it has smooth fractures like glass.
Since it doesn't have the smooth surface of ordinary glass stones, a light coating of oil is required to give them their full beauty. It can get that gradually from fingertips, or you can wipe them down with a little mineral oil from the start. If the black stones seem greyish, it's more likely they need a little oil, rather than that they are fading.
My white Yunzi stones seem to be yellowing slightly, but they probably just need washing after a year of use.
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:02 pm
by xed_over
Inkwolf wrote:Alberich wrote:Yunzi stones are glass?! I thought they weren't.
contains powdered rock and minerals.
that's what glass is made from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:53 pm
by goddess
I thought they were ceramic.
Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:32 am
by Alberich
I think they are ceramic. I received a broken Go stone cleanly split down the middle. It was smooth as glass but felt like ceramic.
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:47 pm
by xed_over
ceramic and glass have some similarities
the difference between ceramic and glass is whether or not its crystalline. glass is usually made from molten material, ceramic is not. but glass could be reheated to become partially crystalline
more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramicfrom what I've seen of yunzi making process -- they're glass.
either way, not much point to oil them, or worry about discoloration.
Re: Does the color of Yunzi stones fade over time?
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:32 pm
by Inkwolf
xed_over wrote:either way, not much point to oil them
The difference in appearance between oiled and un-oiled Yunzi stones is drastic, at least for the black. Think of a pebble you pick up in the river because it's colorful, then when it dries it looks like just another rock. That's the difference.
I have played with normal glass stones, and Yunzi has differences, including the surface texture and translucency, even if they are technically glass.
Slate stones look good with a touch of oil on them, too, if they are looking old and grey and dry.
By the way, back on topic, I have one set of Yunzi stones that are from maybe the 80's or 90's, and they still have their color. They seem a bit more brittle than the new stones, and more likely to break and chip, but I don't know if that's age or changes in the formula.