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9stones handicap game misreading then... resign
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:56 pm
by plu3m
Hi,
This is my first 9 stones handicap game !!
this was played on internet browser go server
www.playok.com/en/goI'm very excited when I played this game
I used a lot of time to think in this game
but still made a mistake(I'm not sure about this

)
i would love everyone comments
Here we see!!
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[kurnik]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]HA[9]KM[0.5]TM[1200]OT[25/1200 Canadian]
PW[plu3m]PB[michael49]DT[2012-10-14]AB[dd][dj][dp][jp][pp][pj][pd][jd][jj]RE[B+Resign]
;W[nc];B[pc];W[fq];B[dq];W[fn];B[cn];W[jk];B[nq];W[qn];B[ql];W[pf]
;B[qe];W[ne];B[kc];W[qf];B[rf];W[hd];B[ic];W[df];B[ce];W[fc];B[db]
;W[fe];B[ci];W[dl];B[em];W[ek];B[bg];W[cf];B[bf];W[bm];B[bn];W[cc]
;B[cb];W[dc];B[ec];W[ed];B[eb];W[cd];B[bc];W[bd];B[be];W[de];B[ad]
;W[fb];B[dd];W[ke];B[je];W[jf];B[if];W[jg];B[ig];W[hf];B[ie];W[ei]
;B[hg];W[fg];B[ej];W[fj];B[fk];W[fl];B[gk];W[el];B[fi];W[gj];B[gi]
;W[hj];B[hk];W[ij];B[ik];W[ji];B[kj];W[hi];B[gh];W[ki];B[hh];W[ii]
;B[kk];W[jl];B[il];W[jm];B[im];W[eh];B[in];W[rp];B[qq];W[rg];B[re]
;W[rq];B[rr];W[op];B[pn];W[pm];B[qm];W[po];B[on];W[pq];B[qp];W[qr]
;B[oo];W[np];B[qo];W[ro];B[rn];W[pr];B[oq];W[mo];B[mp];W[no];B[lp]
;W[or];B[mq];W[mj];B[lm];W[ob];B[md];W[ld];B[lc];W[me];B[nd];W[od]
;B[mc];W[oc];B[oe];W[pe];B[of];W[og];B[gb];W[hb];B[hc];W[gc];B[he]
;W[ge];B[gf];W[ga];B[gg];W[jb];B[ef];W[ff];B[eg];W[dg];B[ib];W[ia]
;B[kf];W[lf];B[kg];W[jh];B[lg];W[mg];B[kd];W[le];B[nf];W[mf];B[mh]
;W[ng];B[lh];W[li];B[ni];W[ml];B[ll];W[mm];B[ln];W[lk];B[kl];W[nh]
;B[mi];W[oi];B[nj];W[oj];B[nk]
)
Re: 9stones handicap game misreading then... resign
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:50 pm
by emeraldemon
regarding the fight at the end, I think this net works:
$$Wcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O . O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O . 1 . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$Wcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O . O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O . 1 . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Wcm1 captures
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O . O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X 4 5 . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O 2 1 7 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . 3 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$Wcm1 captures
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O . O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X 4 5 . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O 2 1 7 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . 3 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 9stones handicap game misreading then... resign
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:15 pm
by Bill Spight
$$Wcm1 captures
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O . O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X 4 5 . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O 2 1 7 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . 3 . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O 8 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$Wcm1 captures
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O . O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X 4 5 . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O 2 1 7 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . 3 . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O 8 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 9stones handicap game misreading then... resign
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:42 pm
by hyperpape
$$Wcm1 there's more hiding here
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O 9 O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X 4 5 . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O 2 1 8 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . 3 . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$Wcm1 there's more hiding here
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O 9 O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X 4 5 . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O 2 1 8 . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . 3 . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O O O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O X . X . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . O . X . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O O . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X O O X X . X X X O O X . . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . O . X . O X X O X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O O X X X O O O O X O X X . |
$$ | . X O O X O X . X O X X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . X . O X O X X X O X . X . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X X . O . X . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X X O O O O O . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O O O X X . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . X . . . X O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . . X . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . X X O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . X X X O X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: 9stones handicap game misreading then... resign
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:49 pm
by CnP
Just some comments that jumped out at me.
white 9 - approaching the top left corner is a bigger move now.
white 15 - what's the point of that move?
white 25 - this move is asking to be cut, as black does - white is supposed to be cutting black up
After black 28 what's the point in trying to push though?, white 29 just strengthens black.
To be honest black 28 seems to me that black reinforces the two stone group so you can't attack. If black plays sensible moves like that there's not much hope.
edit: of course it's quite possible everything I said is wrong and black is white, day is night etc - this is Go of course.
Re: 9stones handicap game misreading then... resign
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:30 pm
by plu3m
Thanks for every replies
How about white159 at O9 instead of N8 ?