Life In 19x19

Posted: **Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:49 pm**

I am moving this game over here in the hopes that magicwand will move over here as well. As it is, I keep getting database errors when I try to post my move to GoDiscussions, so I am unable to continue there.

Here's an sgf of the game so far:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 52 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . B . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hmm, did I miss an opportunity here?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . a O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . 1 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O 3 X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . b O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Anyway, he's settled his bottom group, so time to profit by attacking his other group. Although I do have some bad aji with the clamp at 'a' below, to protect there now would be too slow, as he could reduce my side to approximately 12 points while strengthening his weak group. This attack actually helps a bit with addressing the clamp, and it keeps his weak group on the run while I profit below. I just have to make sure my own group does not get weak.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Clamp $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Here's how I expect the game to continue:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O 1 O 3 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:31 am**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:50 am**

I wouldn't recommend playing too much for the next 12 hours.
As you can see in this thread, there is going to be some shuffling going on. I plan to do it tonight after everyone has a chance to comment. If I screw up, your new game will disappear. If you do play, KEEP BACKUPS.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:38 am**

If I understand correctly, it's fine to resume the game , now... I'm just mentioning this since I find your game so interesting

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:20 pm**

And resume I shall! Glad to know this game is interesting for you as well Kirby.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 54 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X B . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hane can only be bad for me...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, I'm still following what I posted in my last hidden section. These are cutting stones for him - he must save them.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:26 pm**

Here's an archive of every post in this thread from GoDiscussions.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:34 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 55 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O W . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

that was weak move by him. totally unexpected. i will push and push because everytime i push i will build more moyo. okok..i will push till 2 and see where he will answer. and meiai a and b.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 55 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . b . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O W 2 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X 1 a . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:24 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 56 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X B . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Don't get hane'd at the head of two stones! Yet, I am still too weak to hane him myself.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O 1 3 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X 2 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . 4 . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, I don't expect him to push again (see analysis at top of page), but if he does, I may be able to hane (or jump out with my left side group). Either way, he has some good potential for making territory in the center by giving me territory along the side, but will it be enough for him? By my count, no. So, he'll probably muddle the waters up instead as soon as his group is safe.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:35 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 57 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i decided to make my move now. my moyo will speak his word.
this is not an overplay it is a calculated move that will break his back. it seems that he doesnt give too much respect to my moyo but he will pay now.

i would like to give you some possible variation but i dont see any good move by black. also it is so complicated i have no idea where he will play.

i will put more comment after his move.
edit: one comment i will put... i am preparing for the ko fight.
if i get enough ko threat i will play at "a" this is what i call timing. he missed his time to atari that i have to answer without ko.
he might have to pay for that mistake when i build my ko threat.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 57 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X a . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:44 pm**

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:16 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 58 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, although I didn't mention it, this was another spot I thought he might play. However, I knew I would not be in trouble, as I have his other weak group to lean on. I actually think his play is an overplay, but I must be careful. The game has gotten tense again.

I'm really hoping that this move is as good as it appears. It aims at both 'a' and 'b'. For his sake, I hope he has better reading skills than me, because to me it appears this move strikes at the vital point of the entire quarter of the board. Here's a bunch of things I've read out.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O 3 1 . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . 4 , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . 8 6 5 . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O 4 1 3 . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . 1 . . 0 . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . 7 6 9 . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X 8 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . 3 2 , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm11 Brutal for him... but maybe I can do better? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . O . . X . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X O . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O X 4 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . O X 3 . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . 1 2 . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . 5 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Doing better? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . 1 . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . 2 . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O 3 4 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Anyway, I've tried to avoid overwhelming anyone with diagrams to this point, but this is a pivotal moment in the game, and I wanted to show at least some of what I've considered. There is more, but I have not seen anything good for him yet.

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:29 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 59 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . W . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

when you see your opponent's play looking little funny you should find the weakness. it took me about 2 minutes of stare.
only thing that appears threatening is 1 but i have my own move that counter his attack. whatever the result will be ...i will come out a winner. because my feeling says so! he will drown deeper and deeper.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 59 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . 4 2 . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . 3 1 . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . W . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:21 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 60 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . B . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

His move is better for moving out than what I showed, but a bit thinner.

Anyway, if he plays W1 below, I can respond as follows:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . 3 1 . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . 5 2 X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . 7 O 8 . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . 6 . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I should have enough points then. But, this below is probably better.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 59 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 6 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . 3 1 . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . 5 4 2 X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Of course, I have other options aside from move 2 to consider as well. How exciting is this!

Posted: **Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:32 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 61 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . W . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:34 pm**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 62 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . B X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, a lot to read out here.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc I lose semeai by one. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 2 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . 1 O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . 3 X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . 6 4 O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . 8 5 7 . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 9 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Bad for me $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 5 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . 1 O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . 3 2 X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . 4 . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . 9 X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . 1 O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . 3 2 X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . 5 6 O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . 7 8 . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Too much bad aji... $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . 1 . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . O 2 3 . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . . . O 4 5 . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , 6 7 . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X 8 . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . | $$ | . 8 X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . | $$ | . 9 1 O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . | $$ | . 3 2 X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . | $$ | . 5 6 O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . | $$ | . 7 . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Anyway, I'm sorry that these analyses may not be easy to read right now, I don't know what to do about it. Currently I'm debating between 'a' and 'b' below for my next move, but I'm fairly certain I must start with the move I did above. If I do play 'b', my next move will probably be at san-san. However, 'a' looks more attractive, if it works. I'm just worried about his play at 'c'. Notice that if he plays 'a' in response to 'b', I can win the semeai, or at least that's what I've seen.

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Follow any of that?

P.S. I bet Magicwand wishes I'd play my moves as fast as he does. However, if I were to do that I think I'd lose my sanity

. I play at my pace, which I feel is fine for a non-realtime game.

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