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tsumego #29
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:26 pm
by cyclops
Day #29 December 3rd
The next 3 problems took 20 posts 5 years ago. Join in and have fun.
#29a Advanced problem
$$Bc $$------------- $$|............ $$|OXXXX.O..... $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|............ $$|OXXXX.O..... $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go] #29b Intermediate problem
$$Bc $$--------- $$|.O...X.. $$|.O..OX.. $$|.O.O..X. $$|.XXXXX.. $$|........
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$--------- $$|.O...X.. $$|.O..OX.. $$|.O.O..X. $$|.XXXXX.. $$|........[/go]#29c Elementary problem
$$Bc $$------- $$|XXXO.. $$|XOOOX. $$|.OXXX. $$|OOX,.. $$|.XX... $$|......
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Re: tsumego #29
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:33 pm
by Josh Hatch
#29a Advanced problem
$$Bc $$------------- $$|............ $$|OXXXXaO.c... $$|.OOOXObXXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|............ $$|OXXXXaO.c... $$|.OOOXObXXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go] a and b don't work because of c. Letting white play c seems to mean death, so:
$$Bc $$------------- $$|............ $$|OXXXX.O1.... $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|............ $$|OXXXX.O1.... $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go] #29b Intermediate problem
$$Bc $$--------- $$|.O.1.X.. $$|.O..OX.. $$|.O.O..X. $$|.XXXXX.. $$|........
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$--------- $$|.O.1.X.. $$|.O..OX.. $$|.O.O..X. $$|.XXXXX.. $$|........[/go]#29c Elementary problem
$$Bc $$------- $$|XXXO.. $$|XOOOX. $$|2OXXX. $$|OOX,.. $$|1XX... $$|......
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------- $$|XXXO.. $$|XOOOX. $$|2OXXX. $$|OOX,.. $$|1XX... $$|......[/go]$$Bc $$------- $$|.1.O.. $$|.OOOX. $$|OOXXX. $$|OOX,.. $$|XXX... $$|......
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------- $$|.1.O.. $$|.OOOX. $$|OOXXX. $$|OOX,.. $$|XXX... $$|......[/go]
#29a
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:11 am
by cyclops
For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try
j19. Does it work?
Re: #29a
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:58 pm
by Josh Hatch
cyclops wrote: For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try
j19. Does it work?
No.
$$Bc $$------------- $$|......7.256. $$|OXXXX.O1.34. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|......7.256. $$|OXXXX.O1.34. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|.......425.. $$|OXXXX.O1.3.. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|.......425.. $$|OXXXX.O1.3.. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]
Re: #29a
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:01 pm
by logan
Josh Hatch wrote: cyclops wrote: For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try
j19. Does it work?
No.
$$Bc $$------------- $$|......7.256. $$|OXXXX.O1.34. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|......7.256. $$|OXXXX.O1.34. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|.......425.. $$|OXXXX.O1.3.. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|.......425.. $$|OXXXX.O1.3.. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]6?
Re: #29a
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:00 pm
by Josh Hatch
logan wrote: Josh Hatch wrote: cyclops wrote: For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try
j19. Does it work?
No.
$$Bc $$------------- $$|......7.256. $$|OXXXX.O1.34. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|......7.256. $$|OXXXX.O1.34. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|.......425.. $$|OXXXX.O1.3.. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|.......425.. $$|OXXXX.O1.3.. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]6?
Well, this was my idea.
$$Bc $$------------- $$|......6425.. $$|OXXXX7O193.. $$|.OOOXO8XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|......6425.. $$|OXXXX7O193.. $$|.OOOXO8XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]looking at it again though, I guess I missed this:
$$Bc $$------------- $$|......6425.. $$|OXXXX7O1.38. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc $$------------- $$|......6425.. $$|OXXXX7O1.38. $$|.OOOXO.XXOO. $$|...,OXXXO,.. $$|...O.OOO.O.. $$|............[/go]
Re: tsumego #29
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:47 pm
by Shaddy
I just want to say thank you for posting these! I'm really enjoying trying to solve them, even if I'm not always posting the solutions. This advanced problem is pretty tricky, I haven't quite got it yet...
Re: tsumego #29
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:40 am
by cyclops
"If the mountain doesn't move to the prophet, the prophet moves to the mountain instead" (Dutch proverb).
I propose
at J1.
One variant in the next diagram, others in the attached file.
$$Bc 2@7 $$ +------------------------- $$ | . . . . . 6 5 7 1 4 . . $$ | O X X X X . O 3 . . . . $$ | . O O O X O . X X O O . $$ | . . . , O X X X O , . . $$ | . . . O . O O O . O . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc 2@7 $$ +------------------------- $$ | . . . . . 6 5 7 1 4 . . $$ | O X X X X . O 3 . . . . $$ | . O O O X O . X X O O . $$ | . . . , O X X X O , . . $$ | . . . O . O O O . O . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2364
So where is the nonsense?
Re: tsumego #29
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:37 am
by jts
The English version is with come and go... "if the mountain will not come to Muhammad, Muhammad will go to the mountain."
Re: tsumego #29
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:09 pm
by cyclops
lets do it jts' way:
Tommie wrote: 5 years ago:
I almost got it.