Facing Komoku

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Are there any pages on this anywhere? Or maybe lectures.

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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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I went to Sensei's Library and all i found was a loooong page on this

$$c This is a label for the diagram.
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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[go]$$c This is a label for the diagram.
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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I'm trying to learn some 3-4 joseki and this seems like the best opening for this purpose. Especially since pincer plays become optimal.

Of the games i've played with this opening i've noticed a lot more fighting. And also more opportunities to use my influence to push my opponent around

so that's been fun.

[oren]

I've seen some coverage in Dictionary of Basic Fuseki and another random Japanese book had a bit on it. I haven't seen anything in English on it.

[emeraldemon]

the position search is very useful:

http://senseis.xmp.net/?positionsearch=1


This is the main page for that shape: http://senseis.xmp.net/?MukaiKomoku
Here's some more discussion: http://senseis.xmp.net/?BQM232

And some pro game examples:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?SixthChunlanCup%2FRound1Game1
http://senseis.xmp.net/?SixthChunlanCup%2FRound1Game2

[Joaz Banbeck]

I don't know of any links, but I'm trying to clarify the terms used.

TTBOMK, the term "double komoku", is either a "facing komoku" or an "opposing komomu". I think that the terms have been misused on SL.

$$c Double komoku
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[go]$$c Double komoku
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

$$c Facing komoku
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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[go]$$c Facing komoku
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

$$c Opposing komoku
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
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[go]$$c Opposing komoku
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