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Black to Play
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:24 pm
by logan
$$Bm1 Black to play
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I would like to see how you all evaluate this, then I'll show the source solution. I think you'll find it quite humorous...
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:18 pm
by speedchase
[quote="logan"]
$$Bm1 Black to play
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this?
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:43 pm
by logan
What about after the throw-in? Does White have any useful forcing moves?
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:55 pm
by jts
$$Bm1 Black to play
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After w captures the four black stones and b throws in again,
and the space above
are miai.
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:16 pm
by logan
Right!
There are a couple of possible tricks up White's sleeve, and miai key points & a sacrifice Black has to find.
$$Bm1 Solution 1, :b9: @ :w4:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bm1 Solution 1, :b9: @ :w4:$$Bm11 Cont. 1,
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bm11 Cont. 1,$$Bm1 Solution 2
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bm1 Solution 2$$Bm11 Cont. 1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bm11 Cont. 1
So let's see the book answer:
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:44 pm
by Alguien
One of the reasons I don't do go problems from anything not interactive.
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:44 pm
by TIM82
Which book, if I may ask?
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:47 pm
by logan
TIM82 wrote: Which book, if I may ask?
Essential L&D Vol. 4
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:54 pm
by Shaddy
If it's a 1-5d book, I don't see anything wrong with the book's answer. A 1-5d should be able to see all of those lines with only a little effort.
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:06 am
by Alguien
Shaddy wrote: If it's a 1-5d book, I don't see anything wrong with the book's answer. A 1-5d should be able to see all of those lines with only a little effort.
Do you think someone who can see all those lines with little effort really needs the first move to be pointed out?
Otherwise it's not a problem, it's a "look how beautiful are these lines" aesthetic construction.
Re: Black to Play
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:12 pm
by Shaddy
It's possible to miss the first move and go off on a futile reading adventure with some other first move. I almost did that because I thought the first move was too obvious (I thought it'd be a harder problem), but I decided to check it anyway.
and the space above 
are miai.
