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37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:02 pm
by oren
https://ssl.nihonkiin.or.jp/37th-kisei/http://kisei.yomiuri.co.jp/Cho U vs Iyama Yuta will start playing game 1 Thursday (Wednesday evening for US) in Okinawa.
$500k to the winner of the series. I'm looking forward to this matchup.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:17 pm
by Uberdude
Iyama currently holds 5 of the big 7 Japanese titles (Honinbo, Tengen, Oza, Gosei, Judan). I wonder if he can make it all 7. I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:21 pm
by oren
Uberdude, I don't think anyone has held all 7. It's rare that anyone has held the big 3 at the same time. Cho U is playing to keep the Kisei for a fourth straight term and Iyama for the chance to have six of the seven major titles.
Here was the match to decide the challenger to Cho U.
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EV[37th Kisei challenger decision match]
KM[6.5]
FF[3]
SZ[19]
GM[1]
PW[Iyama Yuta]
WR[Honinbo]
DT[2012-11-08]
BR[9d]
RE[W+0.5]
PB[Takao Shinji]
;B[pd];W[dd];B[qp];W[dq];B[oq];W[ck];B[nc];W[qj];B[ql];W[qg];B[qe]
;W[oj];B[gp];W[do];B[jp];W[fc];B[ol];W[lq];B[lo];W[nq];B[nr];W[op]
;B[mq];W[np];B[mr];W[qn];B[pq];W[rl];B[rk];W[qk];B[rm];W[pl];B[qm]
;W[pm];B[rj];W[ri];B[rn];W[om];B[jd];W[lm];B[be];W[bd];B[ce];W[cd]
;B[ci];W[dg];B[cg];W[ch];B[bh];W[dh];B[bj];W[lc];B[ld];W[kd];B[ke]
;W[kc];B[le];W[di];B[jc];W[cj];B[bi];W[bk];B[df];W[bg];B[bf];W[cf]
;B[cq];W[cg];B[dp];W[ep];B[cp];W[er];B[eo];W[fo];B[en];W[fp];B[dr]
;W[fn];B[dn];W[jb];B[ib];W[lb];B[ie];W[nb];B[ob];W[mc];B[nd];W[pb]
;B[oa];W[na];B[pc];W[ja];B[cm];W[jn];B[jo];W[in];B[ki];W[jf];B[kg]
;W[je];B[hd];W[jg];B[fd];W[gc];B[hc];W[kf];B[lf];W[lg];B[kh];W[mg]
;B[nf];W[hf];B[if];W[jh];B[hg];W[ji];B[la];W[ka];B[ec];W[ed];B[eb]
;W[gd];B[fe];W[ge];B[ff];W[gf];B[gg];W[fg];B[fh];W[eg];B[gb];W[ef]
;B[fb];W[ee];B[jj];W[kj];B[lj];W[kk];B[li];W[ij];B[ng];W[lk];B[ni]
;W[nj];B[mj];W[iq];B[jq];W[jr];B[kr];W[mk];B[ph];W[sl];B[pn];W[ro]
;B[qo];W[sn];B[ig];W[an];B[on];W[nm];B[mn];W[ip];B[eq];W[fq];B[ir]
;W[hr];B[js];W[rf];B[cb];W[sm];B[qn];W[rd];B[re];W[se];B[rc];W[em]
;B[io];W[ho];B[gj];W[gk];B[bc];W[ad];B[bn];W[hj];B[ii];W[jk];B[fj]
;W[sc];B[rb];W[dq];B[ih];W[jj];B[eq];W[id];B[ic];W[dq];B[mm];W[cr]
;B[eq];W[hi];B[gi];W[dq];B[ia];W[ma];B[eq];W[hh];B[gh];W[dq];B[gr]
;W[bo];B[co];W[bm];B[eq];W[cn];B[br];W[gq];B[bn];W[dq];B[cs];W[hs]
;B[qf];W[pg];B[oh];W[rh];B[bl];W[cn];B[hp];W[hq];B[bn];W[md];B[me]
;W[cn];B[hn];W[dm];B[bn];W[mh];B[am];W[nh];B[go];W[ak];B[og];W[gn]
;B[ho];W[hm];B[oi];W[mi];B[cl];W[fk];B[rp];W[sj];B[so];W[sk];B[nl]
;W[pk];B[km];W[kn];B[ln];W[pf];B[sb];W[ml];B[sd];W[oe];B[ne];W[sc]
;B[ko];W[jm];B[sd];W[nn];B[no];W[sc];B[ll];W[kl];B[sd];W[sf];B[el]
;W[dl];B[dk];W[fm];B[ej];W[dj];B[ek];W[lm];B[es];W[fs];B[fl];W[gl]
;B[eq];W[ds];B[pe];W[of];B[es];W[dq];B[qh];W[eq];B[qd];W[ds];B[rg]
;W[sg];B[es];W[is];B[jr];W[ds];B[od];W[rg];B[es];W[al];B[ao];W[ds]
;B[cr];W[dc];B[db];W[ac];B[ab];W[cc];B[bb];W[ei];B[he];W[es])
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:25 pm
by lemmata
Uberdude wrote:I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?
No one has ever done so.
In fact, Cho Chikun is the only one to have ever held the top three titles (Kisei, Meijin, Honinbo) simultaneously.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:30 pm
by rpchuang
lemmata wrote:Uberdude wrote:I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?
No one has ever done so.
In fact, Cho Chikun is the only one to have ever held the top three titles (Kisei, Meijin, Honinbo) simultaneously.
That would be the Grand Slam of Go!
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:20 pm
by handa711
Anyone know where to watch this live? IGS isn't broadcasting.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:58 pm
by oren
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:07 pm
by oren
Time used in the first day
Cho U: 2:45
Iyama Yuta: 4:45
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:58 pm
by oren
Uberdude wrote:I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?
Cho U also had the grand slam, but not all at one time.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:01 pm
by JuicesGo
Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:19 am
by handa711
How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won...
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:37 am
by lovelove
handa711 wrote:How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won...
W+5.5
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:39 am
by lovelove
JuicesGo wrote:Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:18 am
by quantumf
lovelove wrote:JuicesGo wrote:Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones
What? That move is not hane at the head of two stones - its kosumi at the head of two stones, which is not a proverb I've ever heard of
Re: 37th Kisei
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:28 am
by lovelove
quantumf wrote:lovelove wrote:JuicesGo wrote:Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones
What? That move is not hane at the head of two stones - its kosumi at the head of two stones, which is not a proverb I've ever heard of
b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong.