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Lee Sedol vs Western Pros

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:06 am
by lovelove
Here's the game.


Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:33 am
by topazg
Looks comfortable ...

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:08 am
by logan
Thank-you for sharing lovelove.

It was a nice, peaceful match.

I would enjoy hearing their thoughts on this game, and how the previous attempted matches, and time in between, may have affected this game.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:18 am
by lovelove
logan wrote:It was a nice, peaceful match.

I'd say Lee Sedol didn't want to think too much and (therefore) save his energy, so just make the game easy. I think he can easily win against those western pros until no-komi. 2 handicaps would be even.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:29 am
by Magicwand
if i dare make comment on this game...
andy's selection of joseki :b11: in the beginning made this game very comfortable for white.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:32 am
by Twitchy Go
Thanks for sharing lovelove.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:46 am
by badukJr
If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:58 am
by lovelove
badukJr wrote:If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?

I think it might be possible to 3 handis, if Lee Sedol plays his best.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:21 am
by Magicwand
lovelove wrote:
badukJr wrote:If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?

I think it might be possible to 3 handis, if Lee Sedol plays his best.

i dont think so...
2 stone will give andy advantage IMO.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:02 am
by lemmata
badukJr wrote:If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?
Don't worry. Even if that happened, the AGA pro system should not be considered a sham. Remember that the very first Korean and Chinese pros needed to take a couple stones against the top Japanese pros. The AGA pros are just starting out. It is somewhat natural that they are a couple stones weaker than the top player in the world. Baby steps!

Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:15 am
by lemmata
Magicwand wrote:if i dare make comment on this game...
andy's selection of joseki :b11: in the beginning made this game very comfortable for white.
Hi Magicwand. One of Lee Sedol's comments has been posted on go9dan.com. It is very brief:
Lee Sedol wrote:Black's move 55 seems better to cut at w56. Allowing w to connect at 56 is a pretty significant territorial loss for B and white also gains an eye shape. Black 59 should have been at w60. I think at black 59, Andy was in byo-yomi. The game was still close but B, in byoyomi played some sequence that later w became favorable on board when B resigned. Andy has a good opening, at par with the pros in Korea and China. His mistakes came after he entered byo-yomi but overall, he is much stronger than I had anticipated.
Is there more extensive commentary available elsewhere?

Re: Lee Sedol vs Western Pros

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:24 pm
by lovelove
Game 2
Lee vs Gansheng


Re: Lee Sedol vs Western Pros

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 pm
by logan
Wow, Lee was relentless that match.

Re: Lee Sedol vs Western Pros

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:11 am
by Uberdude
No need for Lee to release a picture showing he has shot fish in a barrel before.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:40 am
by EdLee
Is there a web page that shows the schedule and dates and times for the rest of these matches? Thanks.