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Lee Sedol vs Western Pros
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:06 am
by lovelove
Here's the game.
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2600
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:33 am
by topazg
Looks comfortable ...
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:08 am
by logan
Thank-you for sharing lovelove.
It was a nice, peaceful match.
I would enjoy hearing their thoughts on this game, and how the previous attempted matches, and time in between, may have affected this game.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:18 am
by lovelove
logan wrote:It was a nice, peaceful match.
I'd say Lee Sedol didn't want to think too much and (therefore) save his energy, so just make the game easy. I think he can easily win against those western pros until no-komi. 2 handicaps would be even.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:29 am
by Magicwand
if i dare make comment on this game...
andy's selection of joseki

in the beginning made this game very comfortable for white.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:32 am
by Twitchy Go
Thanks for sharing lovelove.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:46 am
by badukJr
If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:58 am
by lovelove
badukJr wrote:If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?
I think it might be possible to 3 handis, if Lee Sedol plays his best.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:21 am
by Magicwand
lovelove wrote:badukJr wrote:If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?
I think it might be possible to 3 handis, if Lee Sedol plays his best.
i dont think so...
2 stone will give andy advantage IMO.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:02 am
by lemmata
badukJr wrote:If Sedol pushes to like 4 handi on these guys, doesn't that expose AGA pro as a sham? Why risk it so early?
Don't worry. Even if that happened, the AGA pro system should not be considered a sham. Remember that the very first Korean and Chinese pros needed to take a couple stones against the top Japanese pros. The AGA pros are just starting out. It is somewhat natural that they are a couple stones weaker than the top player in the world. Baby steps!
Re: Lee Sedol vs Andy Liu
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:15 am
by lemmata
Magicwand wrote:if i dare make comment on this game...
andy's selection of joseki

in the beginning made this game very comfortable for white.
Hi Magicwand. One of Lee Sedol's comments has been posted on go9dan.com. It is very brief:
Lee Sedol wrote:Black's move 55 seems better to cut at w56. Allowing w to connect at 56 is a pretty significant territorial loss for B and white also gains an eye shape. Black 59 should have been at w60. I think at black 59, Andy was in byo-yomi. The game was still close but B, in byoyomi played some sequence that later w became favorable on board when B resigned. Andy has a good opening, at par with the pros in Korea and China. His mistakes came after he entered byo-yomi but overall, he is much stronger than I had anticipated.
Is there more extensive commentary available elsewhere?
Re: Lee Sedol vs Western Pros
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:24 pm
by lovelove
Game 2
Lee vs Gansheng
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2624
Re: Lee Sedol vs Western Pros
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 pm
by logan
Wow, Lee was relentless that match.
Re: Lee Sedol vs Western Pros
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:11 am
by Uberdude
No need for Lee to release a picture showing he has shot fish in a barrel before.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:40 am
by EdLee
Is there a web page that shows the schedule and dates and times for the rest of these matches? Thanks.