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I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:08 am
by Uberdude
After 9 months, 247 moves, and what must have been many many hours, perhaps even days, of thinking time on my part I have beaten breakfast in our game on OGS! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D



Edited to use nova OGS link

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:32 am
by SoDesuNe
Congratulations! :tmbup:

I thought your result in the bottom right after White invaded was quite good, but the sequence from :b33: onwards felt kind of strange to me. Later on, your outside shape was very useful in chasing White. Did you plan this all along? =D


post scriptum: Was White 110 a mistake in the end? You cut if off quite easily and got a nice amount of points there.

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:52 am
by Magicwand
Correct me if I'm wrong. White 244 is losing move. H11 then white wins

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:02 am
by Uberdude
Magicwand wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong. White 244 is losing move. H11 then white wins


And then a move inside for semedori (which is gote)? It is better but my reading was black still wins, but by only 0.5 rather than 1.5.

Edit: in fact if you semedori directly you still lose by 1.5, you need to o16 sente first if you want to make it as close as 0.5.

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:43 am
by p2501
Congratulations! That is amazing,

Please comment your game!

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:48 am
by Magicwand
I am sorry, my count say white can not lose. And he resign. Semedori will guarantee white win according to my count.

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:30 am
by Uberdude
Magicwand wrote:I am sorry, my count say white can not lose. And he resign. Semedori will guarantee white win according to my count.


You think he still has a semedori? There is no semedori once I played h13. If he plays j14 then I h14 which makes miai of j15 and f14. It's a rather amusing shape in that when I capture f13 it looks like a false eye, but it avoids any seki or semedori, a weird sort of single-headed dragon.

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:30 am
by Uberdude
p2501 wrote:Congratulations! That is amazing,

Please comment your game!


Thanks; I am commenting it, see sgf above.

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:47 am
by quantumf
Uberdude wrote:
Magicwand wrote:I am sorry, my count say white can not lose. And he resign. Semedori will guarantee white win according to my count.


You think he still has a semedori? There is no semedori once I played h13. If he plays j14 then I h14 which makes miai of j15 and f14. It's a rather amusing shape in that when I capture f13 it looks like a false eye, but it avoids any seki or semedori, a weird sort of single-headed dragon.


But you can't H14, since white can atari at H12 (I'm assuming I've understood you correctly, and you've followed up Magicwand's original move at H11 with H13). So that's no defence. So what is your move after white H11?

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:55 am
by Uberdude
quantumf wrote:
Uberdude wrote:
Magicwand wrote:I am sorry, my count say white can not lose. And he resign. Semedori will guarantee white win according to my count.


You think he still has a semedori? There is no semedori once I played h13. If he plays j14 then I h14 which makes miai of j15 and f14. It's a rather amusing shape in that when I capture f13 it looks like a false eye, but it avoids any seki or semedori, a weird sort of single-headed dragon.


But you can't H14, since white can atari at H12 (I'm assuming I've understood you correctly, and you've followed up Magicwand's original move at H11 with H13). So that's no defence. So what is your move after white H11?


In the above I assumed Magicwand was talking about the game variation in which I was the first to play in that area with h13. Then there is no semedori and I clearly win. His earlier suggestion of h11 for move 244 I answer at h12. Then white can play a move inside to set up a semedori in gote so I tenuki and play the remaining yose and believe I win by 0.5 (or 1.5 if you forget to o16 sente first). I'll put up an sgf with variations for the semedori once I've finished commenting the game sgf above (refresh to see them as I write them on OGS).

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:03 am
by Javaness2
Well done little boy. Now go tidy your room.

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:35 am
by ez4u
Well done! Never mind the nattering nabobs of negativism. They will always be with us, pointing out the might have beens. But in fact, the might have beens... weren't! :rambo:

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:42 am
by jts
Congratulations!

Very clever that you can comment the OGS game while still linking to the same sgf. At first I thought you were treating the three notes on the opening as your commentary...

Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:59 am
by Uberdude
Showing black wins by 0.5 even with the semedori:


Re: I beat breakfast!!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:22 am
by Magicwand
yes you are correct.
that wasnt my suggestion..but still i found what i counted wrong.
so actual difference was half point.
nice game and congrat.