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huang longshi

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:22 am
by otenki
I have seen one game by huang longshi and I was just totaly amazed that I want to study his games.
Do you know where I can find his games. If possible also commented but thats not necisary per se.

Thanks!
Otenki

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:32 am
by tchan001

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:34 am
by otenki
Thanks!

Cheers,
Otenki

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:46 am
by oren
Michael Redmond has authored a book in Japan of games of Huang Longshi. It would be interesting if he could get it published in English as well.

I just read a commented game of his from Go World with comments of Go Seigen translated by John Fairbairn. So Go World may have some as else if you have those.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:49 am
by logan
Here's a game collection I put together. I hope it's useful.

Games of Huang Longshi.pdf
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Re: huang longshi

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:37 am
by mmigo
Hello Logan!
It's kind of you.
You share your hard work, I mean Master Huang Longshi's games.
But one game per page is boring (for beginners), I think.
You should share sgf files in a single zip/rar.
Then we can print as we like, such as 25 moves per page etc.

Waiting for your kindness...
Thanks you so much!

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:51 am
by xed_over
mmigo wrote:But one game per page is boring (for beginners), I think.

ooh, I disagree. This is best.
One page, one game, play it out on a board -- it makes you think about the game and where the next move might be.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:01 am
by mmigo
xed_over wrote:
mmigo wrote:But one game per page is boring (for beginners), I think.

ooh, I disagree. This is best.
One page, one game, play it out on a board -- it makes you think about the game and where the next move might be.



Yes, you may say so.
What you said is interesting and practical.
But it's not just for me, ie, for all including you.

However, 'One man's meat is another man's poison.'

Thanks.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:29 pm
by thirdfogie
The Summer 2013 edition of GoGamesOnDisk has 88 SGF files with hls in the
file name. I opened three at random, and each of those featured
Huang Longshi. There is no commentary.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:26 pm
by Bill Spight
mmigo wrote:
xed_over wrote:
mmigo wrote:But one game per page is boring (for beginners), I think.

ooh, I disagree. This is best.
One page, one game, play it out on a board -- it makes you think about the game and where the next move might be.



Yes, you may say so.
What you said is interesting and practical.
But it's not just for me, ie, for all including you.

However, 'One man's meat is another man's poison.'

Thanks.



One man's meat is another man's poisson. :)

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:29 pm
by mmigo
On Master Huang Longshi's games of commentary, I found 2 books.
But both are in Chinese, that is all Greek to me.
I try to do with OCR software/online, but it doesn't work.
It would be great work if someone translate them into English.
I don't mean a whole book, but one chapter/week.

If Chinese speakers... :w1: :w2: :w3:

Thanks in advance.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:53 pm
by oren
There is also a book about Huang Longshi and his games credited to Michael Redmond in Japanese. I think some is translated and some added, but I'd have to check.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:48 pm
by tchan001
oren wrote:There is also a book about Huang Longshi and his games credited to Michael Redmond in Japanese. I think some is translated and some added, but I'd have to check.

If you are talking about this book,
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/product-desc ... 860293770/
it is based on a Chinese book on Huang Longshi by Xue Zhi Cheng 薛至诚, translated/edited by Niu Xian Xian 牛嫻嫻 (Michael Redmond's wife) and supervised/revised by Michael Redmond.

According to this blog,
http://koubokukei.blog128.fc2.com/blog- ... 20626.html
Michael Redmond says that from this book we can see Huang Longshi's superb calculation and fighting strength, so he feels that this book is extremely valuable.
麥克老師說,這本書可以看出黃龍士高超的計算戰鬥力,所以他也覺得非常有價值。

The original Chinese book is from the following out of print Chinese book set:
http://ec4.images-amazon.com/images/I/5 ... SL500_.jpg
This set of books actually covers four players: Huang Longshi 黄龙士, Xu Xingyou 徐星友、Fan Xiping 范西屏、Shi Xiangxia 施襄夏 (AKA Shi Ding’an)

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:52 pm
by oren
Sounds about right. I read the forward a while ago but never started on the contents.

Re: huang longshi

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:16 am
by mmigo
Thank you.
But, I don't know whether they are the same or not.
Here are two covers.
In the first book, there are 78 matches (531 pages) while 28 matches in the latter (318 pages).
Both are provided in commentary.

HuangLongsshi1.png
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HuangLongshi2.png
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