Time to start a journal here I think to try to stop my attempts to improve being so scattergun and random. While I haven't truly been at 8K long enough to call myself stuck it can feel like it even though I'm sure it's just the slower progress that comes as rank improves.
Unfortunately I can't tell for myself what my strengths and weaknesses are so any plan I make is going to be somewhat general and largely consists of reading books so far (I like books ), though hoping as this thread goes on that I might be able to get the right direction with some help.
Current Rank: 8 Kyu KGS Current Goal: 4 Kyu KGS
Already Read: -
Learn to Play Go 1-5 Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go Opening Theory Made Easy In The Beginning
By no means do I consider these learnt just because I've got through them
Partially Read: -
Life and Death Tesuji Attack and Defense
Currently Reading: -
Graded Go Problems For Beginners II
My current plan is basically do tsumego on the train on the way to and from work, which should give me about 45 minutes a day and to start reviewing some of my games after I've played them, as well as continuing to read through the Elementary Go series.
Will post two of my recent lost games shortly, any comments would be appreciated.
Edit: -
The previous goal of 4 kyu was achieved and a new goal of 1 dan by 01/07/15 has been set.
Did you get a review for the first game from plusguy?
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:52 pm
by PeterN
A very brief one, he was running short on time I think.
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:54 pm
by jts
11: You should consider adapting your strategy and playing p18. 17: O4 is another good response. 19: This is asking for the "hane at the head of two" shape, which favors W. o2 and o4 are the locally playable moves here; since the ladder is bad for B, o2 is probably better. If you don't feel able to make that kind of sacrifice on the bottom, you shouldn't have emphasized the right side. 45: Doesn't seem like good timing for this. You can't attack W's corner because W has s16 still. 57: It's important that you play q12. Once the black stones start to get cut apart, there isn't much B can do against this group. 73-84: I assume this is a reading error, but it's best not to play this kind of sequence out if you can avoid it. When you threaten to cut and W appears to waste a ko threat (74), you should look awfully hard to see whether you're missing something. 95: Wrong direction, keep moving, either to the left (threatening the center) or down (threatening the bottom) 109: This sort of move is often called false sente, or sente no gote - W does need to reply, but then he manages to find a reply that is itself sente, and you lose L12... 115: If you see that k14 doesn't work, you should also see that it's very important not to play it. So long as the key stones have two liberties, you have lots of forcing moves against g12 (which only has three liberties). Captured cutting stones with 2+ libs are crucial to coming out ahead in fights. Once a stone has one liberty, a player can respond to an atari by capturing the cutting stones. --- Meanwhile, K14 will probably be captured, too, so you are adding to W's score. 121: I would try a double hane here. If you just settle this group submissively, you'll end up quite far behind. It's white that should be playing submissively (to protect his lead).
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:11 am
by PeterN
Thanks for the comments.
73-84: This was indeed a reading error. 115: I have no defence for this, I have no idea what I was thinking when I played it.
The rest of your points will give me something to focus on when I review the game.
PeterN
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:33 am
by PeterN
Not a full week, but I have more chance of keeping this up to date on Sundays than Tuesdays.
Progress Report: -
Tsumego: Read through Graded Go Problems for Beginners II (94.8% correct) Game reviews: Reviewed two lost games Elementary Go Series: Negligable progress
When reviewing I noticed a large number of times where I defended solidly, but in poor shape (along the lines of empty triangle instead of bamboo joint), as well as some times where I defended without needing to and times where I needed to defend and didn't.
Next steps are to start working through Graded Go Problems for Beginners III, continue with the Elementary Go Series, and to start paying close attention to how I'm defending.
PeterN
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:14 am
by PeterN
Progress Report: -
Tsumego: Started on Graded Go Problems for Beginners III Games Reviewed: 0 Elementary Go Series: No progress
Well this has not been a good week for studying go for me, partly due to being busy, and partly due to getting caught up in other things, not good for the 2nd progress update. Despite not reviewing any games in the week I have at least been thinking them over a bit and another weakness that's been lurking in the back of my mind has come to the front; attempting to reduce, cut, or something else which results in a giant no eyed dragon of my own death.
The third volume of the go problems series feels like a significant step up from the second, and at best I'm only getting 3 in 4 of the problems right, plummeting to near 0 of the end game problems.
PeterN
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:17 am
by PeterN
A fairly typical example of the dragon from my previous post can be seen in this game: -
I'm still trying to work out how to start properly with invasions and reductions, but that can wait till after I work out the not dying part first
PeterN
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:43 pm
by EdLee
PeterN wrote:I'm still trying to work out how to start properly with invasions and reductions, but that can wait till after I work out the not dying part first
Umm... OK. Yes, there are a million things to work on, including life-and-death. Your move L4 forced W to happily connect. M3 would split W into two.
Re:
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:51 pm
by PeterN
EdLee wrote:
PeterN wrote:I'm still trying to work out how to start properly with invasions and reductions, but that can wait till after I work out the not dying part first
Umm... OK. Yes, there are a million things to work on, including life-and-death. Your move L4 forced W to happily connect. M3 would split W into two.
Ah... I see what you mean with that.... I was worried that if I pushed in with M3 that I would be start coming under attack and getting surrounded very quickly... kind of like what happened anyway
Just working out which of those million things to look at is a problem
PeterN
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:47 pm
by schawipp
I've tried to insert some comments until move 65. Since I'm also a rather weak player, they are meant for further discussion...
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[0.50]TM[1500]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] PW[sabaku0]PB[PeterN]WR[6k]BR[8k]DT[2013-08-18]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp]C[PeterN [8k\]: Hi, hf sabaku0 [6k\]: hi ]RE[W+Resign] ;W[dd]WL[1498.275] ;B[qp]BL[1496.776] ;W[op]WL[1496.542] ;B[pn]BL[1492.877] ;W[qq]WL[1492.537] ;B[rq]BL[1491.816] ;W[pq]WL[1490.694] ;B[ro]BL[1489.106] ;W[jq]WL[1488.899] ;B[pj]BL[1482.099] ;W[fp]WL[1477.598] ;B[cn]BL[1470.583] ;W[nc]WL[1474.295] ;B[qf]BL[1457.871] ;W[pb]WL[1470.963] ;B[qc]BL[1456.026] ;W[kc]WL[1468.447] ;B[er]BL[1452.238] ;W[gr]WL[1458.178] ;B[cf]BL[1448.115] ;W[cd]WL[1446.255] ;B[ci]BL[1432.037] ;W[gc]WL[1443.292] ;B[lp]BL[1396.072] ;W[mq]WL[1437.17] (;B[kp]BL[1379.938] ;W[kr]WL[1424.698] (;B[no]BL[1376.433]C[The keima is usually good for attacking but less good for connecting] ;W[oo]WL[1422.251] ;B[on]BL[1375.166] ;W[nn]WL[1419.539] ;B[mo]BL[1370.174] ;W[nm]WL[1416.899] ;B[ol]BL[1359.78] ;W[om]WL[1402.196] ;B[pm]BL[1358.099] ;W[nl]WL[1400.726] ;B[ok]BL[1356.648] ;W[km]WL[1398.441] (;B[jn]BL[1326.203]C[Again the keima it not the best for escaping...] ;W[io]WL[1393.213] ;B[in]BL[1321.128] ;W[ho]WL[1388.398] ;B[hn]BL[1314.335] ;W[fn]WL[1385.662] ;B[hk]BL[1307.444] ;W[il]WL[1381.891] ;B[hl]BL[1305.934] ;W[jj]WL[1379.38] (;B[ik]BL[1282.115]C[In the following moves you attack w while still being weak for yourself] ;W[jl]WL[1376.541] ;B[jk]BL[1278.793] ;W[kk]WL[1374.238] ;B[nk]BL[1275.847] ;W[mk]WL[1361.994] ;B[mj]BL[1259.171] ;W[lk]WL[1352.068] ;B[lj]BL[1244.722] ;W[kj]WL[1347.689]TR[lj][jk]C[you force w to connect out and give you a broken shape; a so-called "thank you move"] ;B[lh]BL[1213.956] ;W[jh]WL[1341.68] (;B[hi]BL[1209.02] ;W[fk]WL[1336.385] ;B[dl]BL[1198.892] ;W[fi]WL[1328.389]C[Now, it's getting difficult for the dragon, end of comments] ;B[fl]BL[1186.079] ;W[el]WL[1321.823] ;B[em]BL[1183.596] ;W[fm]WL[1301.732] ;B[ek]BL[1165.669] ;W[gl]WL[1294.538] ;B[gm]BL[1131.183] ;W[gk]WL[1279.931] ;B[el]BL[1124.564] ;W[gh]WL[1260.082] ;B[hh]BL[1084.717] ;W[gg]WL[1253.468] ;B[hg]BL[1075.499] ;W[jf]WL[1249.348] ;B[gf]BL[1070.627] ;W[ff]WL[1246.916] ;B[hf]BL[1065.209] ;W[eg]WL[1239.136] ;B[gi]BL[1059.909] ;W[ej]WL[1229.101] ;B[dj]BL[1030.152] ;W[ei]WL[1219.626] ;B[fe]BL[982.769] ;W[ee]WL[1214.838] ;B[fd]BL[981.676] ;W[hd]WL[1199.764] ;B[ie]BL[931.431] ;W[ke]WL[1190.899] ;B[je]BL[922.792] ;W[kf]WL[1183.534] ;B[jc]BL[917.732] ;W[jb]WL[1175.995] ;B[ic]BL[914.558] ;W[fc]WL[1164.187] ;B[kb]BL[903.677] ;W[lb]WL[1156.005] ;B[ib]BL[899.755] ;W[ka]WL[1153.99] ;B[gb]BL[889.546] ;W[fb]WL[1148.313] ;B[ga]BL[888.159] ;W[hc]WL[1131.765] ;B[lm]BL[833.114] ;W[ln]WL[1106.86] ;B[kn]BL[827.5] ;W[mm]WL[1089.187] ;B[jp]BL[787.202] ;W[iq]WL[1075.588] ;B[lo]BL[781.092] ;W[jo]WL[1050.272] ;B[mn]BL[757.704] ;W[ml]WL[1043.456] ;B[gj]BL[753.094] ;W[fj]WL[1037.584]) (;B[fk]C[still this move exists])) (;B[fk]C[This way, b is almost connected] ;W[jo]TR[jn][kp]C[the keima can be still cut, but you can get compensation in this position...] ;B[kn] ;W[ko] ;B[ln] ;W[lo] ;B[mn] ;W[mp]C[If white takes about 7-8 points here...] ;B[mk]C[...you can get them back and settle your group this way])) (;B[lm]C[Attaching is often a good defensive technique. The attaching stone or another nearby stone is often sacrificed in order to get tempo] ;W[ln] ;B[kn] (;W[ko] ;B[mn] ;W[jn] ;B[mm]C[it would be not easy to seal black in, since the four white stones are also in danger]) (;W[mn] ;B[jm] ;W[kl] ;B[jn]TR[lm]C[You can maybe use the marked stone to get further tempo later] ;W[gm] ;B[jl] ;W[jk] ;B[kk] ;W[ll] ;B[ik] ;W[jj] ;B[hl]C[it would be difficult to stop b]))) (;B[lm]C[that makes better shape with the two stones and threatens to enlarge black's right side])) (;B[lq]C[as suggested by EdLee, quite painful for w]))
Re: PeterN's Study Journal
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:18 am
by PeterN
Thanks for the comments, reading through them overall I think I'm showing two problems; the first one of attitude with being far too attack-happy and the second being not knowing how to escape well (although not playing M3 is another issue still), I seem to be able to break through up to aboout 8K opponents, but better than that and you've seen what happens.
I'm a little worried about your comments on keimas being less good for connecting, I've been thinking of them as one of the my more usual moves for doing exactly this... which does tend to turn into it being cut and the whole board becoming several interlinked tsumegos.
40: My reasoning here was he'd respond to the shoulder hit and I'd be able to get out that way, I much prefer your variations though.
50: I think this might have been good if I just treated it as a single forcing move and then immediately went to defence afterwards instead of trying to continue the attack.