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Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:09 am
by Bill Spight
I just ran across this problem.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc White to play $$ ------------------ $$ . . . . X X . . . | $$ . . . X O O . O . | $$ . . X . X X O . . | $$ . . . . X O O O . | $$ . . . . X O X X . | $$ . . . . X X . . X | $$ . . . . . . X X . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . O . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]Enjoy!
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:09 am
by tomukaze
$$Wc White to play $$ ------------------ $$ . . . . X X . . . | $$ . . . X O O . O . | $$ . . X . X X O . . | $$ . . . . X O O O . | $$ . . . . X O X X . | $$ . . . . X X . . X | $$ . . . . . . X X . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . O . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . . . |
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc White to play $$ ------------------ $$ . . . . X X . . . | $$ . . . X O O . O . | $$ . . X . X X O . . | $$ . . . . X O O O . | $$ . . . . X O X X . | $$ . . . . X X . . X | $$ . . . . . . X X . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . O . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]My answer-
Looks like a Ko to me.
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This is death
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$$Wc White to play $$ ------------------ $$ . . . . X X . 2 . | $$ . . . X O O . O 1 | $$ . . X . X X O . . | $$ . . . . X O O O . | $$ . . . . X O X X . | $$ . . . . X X . . X | $$ . . . . . . X X . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . O . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . . . |
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc White to play $$ ------------------ $$ . . . . X X . 2 . | $$ . . . X O O . O 1 | $$ . . X . X X O . . | $$ . . . . X O O O . | $$ . . . . X O X X . | $$ . . . . X X . . X | $$ . . . . . . X X . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . O . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . O . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]Unless I'm missing something here...
It may also be that my status is "lives with ko".
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:25 am
by Bill Spight
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:22 pm
by HermanHiddema
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3707
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:35 pm
by tomukaze
@Hermann
How about
at T15 to make it a direct ko?
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:38 pm
by HermanHiddema
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:44 pm
by HermanHiddema
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:53 pm
by tomukaze
Ah yes I see.,
Oops sorry didn't realise there is only one n...
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:04 pm
by ez4u
Obviously some of us L19's have imprinted that extra 'n' after the obligatory 10,000 hours of reading/posting here. But pretty clearly
it is all your fault for creating that link in our shallow and impressionable minds to begin with.
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:12 pm
by Bill Spight
When it should actually be Herr Mann.
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:25 am
by daal
Wow! It looks like I am the main perpetrator, which is extremely embarrassing, particularly because the exact same thing constantly happens to me and I'm forever getting in people's case about it. My last name ends in ______ma
n with one "n" and I live in Germany, and even when telling it to someone's face that my last name ends in one "n" they will write it with two. It seems that Germans are so used to writing "mann" with two n's that they find it virtually impossible to do otherwise. As a consequence, I often don't get emails and mystified institutions claim to have no record that I have ever done business with them. Now it appears as if I've gone German myself, assuming that the Dutch like the Americans must double their n's like we Germans do... Looks like I ought to change the spelling of my name!
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:36 am
by tchan001
It's Bill's fault, Herrmann
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:41 am
by HermanHiddema
daal wrote: Now it appears as if I've gone German myself...
Don't you mean Germann?
Anyway, I don't mind at all, I just thought it was funny. I expect most people who make this mistake are either from a German speaking region or interact with Germans a lot.
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:18 am
by unkx80
Would you call the person "her man" or "her mann"?
Re: Fun L&D Problem
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:52 am
by daal
Her man is Herman and Herman ain't German Herr Mann ist der Mann mit dem Vornamen Hermann His wife is Frau Mann and her man ain't Herman Hermann is her man and her man is German