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studying go in china

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:31 pm
by otenki
hey guys,

Some of you might be wondering what it is like to study go in china.(the "system" of Guo Juan)
I've been studying for about 6 weeks here in china (I will be here for total of 2 months).

I just thought I'd share my blog with you, maybe some of you will find it intresting.
I know I would have loved to see a more modern blog than the one she is having linked on the website (from 2006) before I would go.

Here it is:
http://strongatgo.com/

Enjoy :-),
Otenki

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:20 pm
by fireproof
Very entertaining - thanks for keeping the blog!

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:32 am
by SoDesuNe
Interesting, thanks for the blog!

Do you just get Tesuji problems to solve? No Life-and-Death?

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:51 am
by otenki
SoDesuNe wrote:Interesting, thanks for the blog!

Do you just get Tesuji problems to solve? No Life-and-Death?


Thanks!

In the beginning we just got Tesuji problems. The idea behind this is that our shapes would get better.
We would learn to see all the aji that is left in certain shapes. Howhever we still make so many mistakes in our shapes :-)

Now I'm getting a mix of tesuji, life and death and endgame.
In my free time I'm doing the Lee chang ho life and death and tesuji which is also very interesting!

Cheers,
Otenki

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:03 pm
by Bonobo
Thanks, nice to read this.

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:15 pm
by xed_over
I think somebody stole your site -- I only get a hosting site.

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:48 pm
by cdybeijing
Yes, no blog at the end of that link.

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:28 pm
by otenki
Hi guys,

Sorry
There was an issue with the cpu usage of the shared hosting.
Should be fixed now :-)

Cheers,
Otenki

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:11 pm
by xed_over
in your double knight's approach and the teacher's recommendation for 3-3 instead of trying to push out -- won't you still live cramped even smaller?

in the book, Breakthrough to Shodan, there's a similar example of a corner handicap stone being surrounded by triple kikari, and the author says that even though black can live with a 3-3, he shouldn't.

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:44 pm
by otenki
Hey,

Black needs to dive into 3-3 to make some kind of stability for the group.
He will NOT be surrounded, this is exactly what white wants black to think by playing this trickplay.

Mostlikely sequence: (the one that the teacher showed us)



This is good enough for black (he ignored an approach to the 4-4).

I forgot some of the variations that come after this but the main point is that white cannot cut without dying himself.

Cheers,
Otenki

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:08 pm
by EdLee
otenki, thank you for sharing the blog. 'Fundamentals' is jibengong, not jibendong in your September 14, 2013 (#3) blog. :)

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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:24 pm
by otenki
EdLee wrote:otenki, thank you for sharing the blog. 'Fundamentals' is jibengong, not jibendong in your September 14, 2013 (#3) blog. :)


Thanks :-)
Yeah, this was when I did not hear this word a lot yet.
Now, at least once per week we hear "jibengong bu hao..." ;-)

Cheers,
Roel

Re: studying go in china

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:25 am
by often
Heh, i went through that program. Tell Yan An that "hwang chi kang" says hi.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:50 pm
by EdLee
Hi otenki, on your October 11, 2013 blog, the 3-stone game -- was that the entire game (was :b74: was the last move? ) or was there more to it ?

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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:57 pm
by otenki
EdLee wrote:Hi otenki, on your October 11, 2013 blog, the 3-stone game -- was that the entire game (was :b74: was the last move? ) or was there more to it ?


Teacher resigned at this point because white cannot attack the black group. If he does the top group will die. (If I would have played the empty triangle). I did not play the empty triangle but for him the sequences before were a better game than I played before so he rewarded me by resigning here I think.

However the game is still even when I don't make the empty triangle, the group just can now also be chased which leads to a little bit more territory for white on the upper side I guess.

Cheers,
Otenki