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Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:34 pm
by FluffM
Hey gang. I just played this game and I thought I did quite well until I lost (granted, by only 6.5 points I think). Still, I felt good all the way. Where did I go wrong? I'm white.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2013/12/21/FluffM-greenmint.sgf
Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:51 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
My comments go through 108...
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1500]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]PW[FluffM]PB[greenmint]WR[5k]BR[6k]DT[2013-12-21]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]C[greenmint [6k\]: hi gg
FluffM [5k\]: hi
FluffM [5k\]: have fun!
]RE[B+6.50];B[pd]BL[1496.76];W[dp]WL[1497.253];B[pq]BL[1492.508];W[dc]WL[1494.632];B[cf]BL[1478.855]C[JB: This play neglects the corner a bit, and emphasizes the side. ](;W[fd]WL[1489.779]C[JB: Corners are more important than sides. See variation.];B[cc]BL[1452.091](;W[cd]WL[1476.179]C[JB: I can't say that this is wrong, but my reflex would be to go for the corner. ( Note how often I'm typing the word 'corner' ) See variation];B[bd]BL[1435.219];W[bc]WL[1462.631];B[cb]BL[1415.07];W[bb]WL[1430.269];B[dd]BL[1405.821];W[ce]WL[1426.173];B[be]BL[1375.095];W[de]WL[1422.239];B[db]BL[1372.54];W[ec]WL[1411.328];B[df]BL[1366.466];W[ee]WL[1404.766];B[eb]BL[1353.549];W[fb]WL[1398.964];B[ba]BL[1349.697];W[nc]WL[1393.662];B[gc]BL[1330.572](;W[gb]WL[1381.527]C[JB: This seems unnecessarily risky. See variation];B[hc]BL[1326.242];W[hb]WL[1368.263];B[ic]BL[1320.424];W[fc]WL[1365.294](;B[mc]BL[1312.039]C[JB: A terrible move. See variation.];W[md]WL[1361.1]C[JB: Good move! ];B[lc]BL[1306.829];W[nd]WL[1355.72];B[he]BL[1295.752](;W[pf]WL[1350.205]C[JB: You are asking to be split. See variation];B[oe]BL[1290.123];W[qc]WL[1347.063];B[qd]BL[1287.239];W[pc]WL[1345.681];B[qg]BL[1277.02];W[og]WL[1337.54];B[nf]BL[1272.697];W[qf]WL[1329.438];B[pi]BL[1243.318];W[ng]WL[1324.477];B[mf]BL[1240.96];W[ni]WL[1314.072];B[pk]BL[1206.308](;W[ke]WL[1306.081]C[JB: Too thin. See variation];B[lg]BL[1181.218](;W[if]WL[1296.23];B[kd]BL[1170.573];W[ld]WL[1286.433];B[jd]BL[1164.666];W[lf]WL[1282.049];B[mg]BL[1161.791];W[kg]WL[1250.737];B[kh]BL[1150.923];W[jg]WL[1241.372];B[lj]BL[1132.452];W[nk]WL[1237.566](;B[nl]BL[1087.073];W[mk]WL[1225.868];B[lk]BL[1054.873];W[ml]WL[1222.584](;B[nm]BL[1044.92]TR[lm](;W[ef]WL[1217.224]C[JB: This is small and slow. See variations];B[ln]BL[1015.293](;W[ll]WL[1208.927]C[JB: This is aji keshi. See variation];B[kl]BL[1012.662];W[qh]WL[1195.413]C[JB: Good move!];B[ph]BL[1005.255];W[pg]WL[1192.153];B[rg]BL[1002.553];W[rh]WL[1189.597];B[rf]BL[968.135];W[re]WL[1182.505];B[rd]BL[965.29];W[sf]WL[1173.023];B[gp]BL[929.459];W[oj]WL[1111.349];B[pj]BL[921.444];W[gg]WL[1087.679];B[jb]BL[899.919];W[kk]WL[1029.436];B[jk]BL[869.227];W[kj]WL[991.88];B[jj]BL[861.166];W[ki]WL[988.31];B[li]BL[850.271];W[ji]WL[982.361];B[jh]BL[847.548];W[ii]WL[980.339];B[ih]BL[845.255];W[jl]WL[970.429];B[hi]BL[812.749];W[km]WL[956.091];B[hg]BL[773.506];W[hf]WL[940.907];B[ig]BL[720.249];W[je]WL[923.643];B[hj]BL[683.849];W[cj]WL[886.927];B[dn]BL[664.875];W[co]WL[879.801];B[cn]BL[658.795](;W[fq]WL[871.208]C[JB: He is too strong on the outside for this. See variation]TR[gp];B[cq]BL[648.483];W[cp]WL[862.733];B[eq]BL[633.828];W[dq]WL[853.993];B[ep]BL[630.45];W[er]WL[845.328];B[gq]BL[580.784];W[fp]WL[835.982];B[eo]BL[575.083];W[cr]WL[825.799];B[fo]BL[559.297];W[fr]WL[822.904];B[ei]BL[539.471];W[bg]WL[816.318];B[ch]BL[525.553];W[bh]WL[810.457];B[ci]BL[517.58];W[bi]WL[798.611];B[dj]BL[513.959];W[ck]WL[784.038];B[mq]BL[465.461];W[bf]WL[777.584];B[ac]BL[457.299];W[cg]WL[773.611];B[gh]BL[447.808];W[fg]WL[766.429];B[dh]BL[444.581];W[dg]WL[763.647];B[il]BL[424.465];W[im]WL[757.623];B[hl]BL[415.729];W[hm]WL[753.428];B[gm]BL[400.182];W[gl]WL[746.749];B[ij]BL[382.673];W[kl]WL[740.727];B[fm]BL[373.833];W[fk]WL[718.997];B[dk]BL[361.595];W[eh]WL[694.496];B[di]BL[357.597];W[fi]WL[683.324];B[fh]BL[347.028];W[fj]WL[679.355];B[cl]BL[338.033];W[el]WL[660.074];B[dl]BL[334.243];W[jq]WL[643.637];B[jn]BL[322.839];W[kn]WL[629.839];B[jp]BL[306.692];W[kp]WL[617.486];B[jo]BL[299.717];W[ko]WL[613.163];B[iq]BL[289.663];W[jr]WL[609.456];B[jm]BL[272.834];W[mo]WL[583.519];B[no]BL[256.802];W[mn]WL[579.862];B[nn]BL[248.518];W[np]WL[571.296];B[nq]BL[243.337];W[op]WL[564.81];B[pp]BL[222.077];W[oo]WL[558.875];B[pm]BL[175.251];W[po]WL[546.832];B[mp]BL[165.91];W[ro]WL[536.218];B[rq]BL[129.196];W[rl]WL[525.449];B[rm]BL[106.774];W[ql]WL[467.543];B[qm]BL[94.439];W[pl]WL[414.82];B[ol]BL[89.21];W[rj]WL[398.892];B[ok]BL[81.995];W[oi]WL[382.294];B[qj]BL[55.103];W[oq]WL[368.911];B[or]BL[51.879];W[pr]WL[351.388];B[qr]BL[46.13];W[nr]WL[346.585];B[ps]BL[41.644];W[mr]WL[345.271];B[lo]BL[22.647];W[mm]WL[342.2];B[lq]BL[30]OB[5];W[lr]WL[323.504];B[ri]BL[30]OB[5];W[sg]WL[284.264];B[rk]BL[30]OB[5];W[qp]WL[266.453];B[qq]BL[30]OB[5];W[rc]WL[261.409];B[sc]BL[30]OB[5];W[sb]WL[258.45];B[sd]BL[30]OB[5];W[rb]WL[257.071];B[bl]BL[30]OB[5];W[bj]WL[253.133];B[bn]BL[30]OB[5];W[bo]WL[250.205];B[bq]BL[30]OB[5];W[br]WL[244.121];B[mb]BL[30]OB[5];W[nb]WL[230.411];B[ge]BL[30]OB[5];W[hr]WL[212.026];B[hq]BL[30]OB[5];W[eg]WL[204.919];B[ie]BL[30]OB[4];W[gd]WL[195.291];B[jf]BL[30]OB[4];W[kf]WL[192.741];B[gf]BL[30]OB[4];W[ma]WL[178.149];B[la]BL[30]OB[4];W[na]WL[174.949];B[ir]BL[30]OB[4];W[ib]WL[161.438];B[ja]BL[30]OB[4];W[is]WL[157.518];B[gr]BL[30]OB[4];W[hs]WL[155.782];B[gs]BL[30]OB[4];W[js]WL[154.218];B[bp]BL[30]OB[4];W[ap]WL[146.686];B[jf]BL[30]OB[4];W[le]WL[141.837];B[rp]BL[30]OB[4];W[qo]WL[137.533];B[if]BL[30]OB[4];W[sp]WL[117.529];B[sq]BL[30]OB[4];W[so]WL[115.916];B[sm]BL[30]OB[4];W[mh]WL[108.427];B[mi]BL[30]OB[4];W[mj]WL[97.891];B[lh]BL[30]OB[4];W[nh]WL[92.696];B[es]BL[30]OB[4];W[ds]WL[85.804];B[fs]BL[30]OB[4];W[dr]WL[83.367];B[ho]BL[30]OB[4];W[ea]WL[70.015];B[ab]BL[30]OB[4];W[hd]WL[65.073];B[id]BL[30]OB[4];W[ia]WL[63.272];B[da]BL[30]OB[4];W[fa]WL[59.228];B[bk]BL[30]OB[4];W[ak]WL[56.364];B[al]BL[30]OB[4];W[aj]WL[55.145];B[si]BL[30]OB[4];W[an]WL[47.972];B[am]BL[30]OB[4];W[ao]WL[44.934];B[od]BL[30]OB[4];W[oc]WL[41.869];B[se]BL[30]OB[4];W[qe]WL[38.764];B[sh]BL[30]OB[4];W[qi]WL[22.745];B[sj]BL[30]OB[4];W[rg]WL[20.645];B[ns]BL[30]OB[4];W[kq]WL[9.851];B[on]BL[30]OB[4];W[ae]WL[30]OW[5];B[ad]BL[30]OB[4];W[af]WL[30]OW[5];B[pn]BL[30]OB[4];W[ms]WL[30]OW[5];B[os]BL[30]OB[4];W[rs]WL[30]OW[5];B[qs]BL[30]OB[4];W[sr]WL[30]OW[5];B[]BL[30]OB[4];W[ne]WL[30]OW[5];B[of]BL[30]OB[4];W[]WL[30]OW[5](;B[]BL[30]OB[2]TW[ga][ha][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ob][pb][qb][dd][ed][cf][df][rf][ag][qg][ah][ai][nj][lm][ln][lo][bp][lp][mp][aq][bq][cq][lq][mq][nq][ar][kr][as][bs][cs][ks][ls]TB[aa][ca][ka][bb][kb][lb][bc][jc][kc][hf][hh][fi][gi][ej][fj][gj][rj][ek][fk][gk][hk][ik][qk][sk][el][fl][gl][pl][ql][rl][sl][bm][cm][dm][em][hm][im][om][en][fn][gn][hn][in][go][io][hp][ip]C[greenmint [6k\]: sorry
FluffM [5k\]: its ok
FluffM [5k\]: thanks
greenmint [6k\]: thx
])(;B[]BL[30]OB[4]TW[ga][ha][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ob][pb][qb][cf][df][ag][ah][ai]TB[aa][ca][ka][bb][kb][lb][bc][jc][kc][pe][qe][re][hf][pf][qf][rf][sf][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][hh][mh][nh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][ii][ji][ki][ni][oi][pi][qi][ri][si][kj][mj][nj][oj][pj][qj][rj][sj][kk][mk][nk][ok][pk][qk][rk][sk][jl][kl][ll][ml][nl][ol][pl][ql][rl][sl][km][lm][mm][nm][om][pm][qm][rm][sm][kn][ln][mn][nn][on][pn][qn][rn][sn][ko][lo][mo][no][oo][po][qo][ro][so][kp][lp][mp][np][op][qp][sp][jq][kq][lq][mq][nq][oq][hr][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][pr][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms]))(;W[eq]C[JB: Gotta go...maybe more later]))(;W[km](;B[lm];W[ll];B[kl];W[kk];B[jl];W[jk])(;B[ll];W[mm];B[lm];W[mn]C[JB: You are out again])))(;W[gf]C[JB: This also keeps you from getting locked in the corner. But now he might be in danger. ( L18? K18? )]TR[mc][lc][kd][jd][ic][hc][gc][he])(;W[lm])))(;B[qh]C[JB: Look at how strong this is if he gets there first.]))(;W[qh]TR[pi][pk]C[JB: Get some eye space, and undermine his stones.]))(;W[le]))(;W[pb]))(;B[lc]C[JB: He should have done this.]))(;W[fc]C[JB: He has a lone stone against your wall.];B[gb]C[JB: He can try to become stronger by threatening to connect under...];W[ea]C[JB...but you threaten to kill him...];B[ab]C[JB:...and...];W[kc]C[JB: ...he is in trouble]))(;W[cb]))(;W[cd]C[JB: Grab a corner! If you want F16, you can get it later...];B[ci]C[JB: His best play is here - or 'a' or 'b' - so that you can't pincer him against your strong corner...then...]LB[di:A][dj:B](;W[fd]C[JB: ....you still have F16 if you want it. Although something a bit further may be better now that you have a strong corner. See variations])(;W[jd]C[JB: Looks ok to me *shrug*])(;W[hd]C[JB: Still feels better proportioned than F16])))
Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:23 pm
by Shenoute
Same as Joaz Banbeck on the sequence in the upper left.
I would add that moving the q14 stone with

only creates a weak group you had to care about for a long time. And looking at where b points are in the end, it seems that the stones he placed while chasing this group were useful to him.
Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:25 pm
by ez4u
The immediate cause of your loss was that you did not play L17 and capture three stones at the end of the game (if Black connects you catch five stones in a shortage of liberties with L18).

Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:34 pm
by FluffM
Thanks so much for your help guys. It seems that some of the common threads here are that I don't value corners enough and I play a little over-ambitiously. If I'm correct, only one of my moves that you reviewed, Joaz, was slow.
ez4u, I can't believe I didn't see that opportunity at the end. Getting that would have made all the difference.
Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:32 pm
by ez4u
Note that going back to the original corner, White can play A18 in reply to B19 and capture Black. The classic defect at B14 means Black needs four plays to capture from the left side so you have time to capture the top stones. Black might hane at the top for a ko but there are no ko threats so early in the game.
Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:48 pm
by Bill Spight
A variation for the top left corner.
(;AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]CA[UTF-8]ST[2]SZ[19]FF[4]GM[1]DT[2013-12-21]FG[259:]KM[0.5]PW[FluffM]PM[0]TM[1500.0]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]PB[greenmint]RE[B+6.50]WR[5k]C[greenmint \[6k\]\: hi gg
FluffM \[5k\]\: hi
FluffM \[5k\]\: have fun!
]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]RU[Japanese]BR[6k]GN[ ]
;B[pd]BL[1496.76]
;WL[1497.253]W[dp]
;B[pq]BL[1492.508]
;WL[1494.632]W[dc]
;B[cf]BL[1478.855]
;WL[1489.779]W[fd]
;B[cc]BL[1452.091]
;WL[1476.179]W[cd]
;B[bd]BL[1435.219]
;WL[1462.631]W[bc]
;B[cb]BL[1415.07]
;WL[1430.269]W[bb]
;B[dd]BL[1405.821]
;WL[1426.173]W[ce]
;B[be]BL[1375.095]
;WL[1422.239]W[de]
;B[db]BL[1372.54]
;WL[1411.328]W[ec]
;B[df]BL[1366.466]
;WL[1404.766]W[ee]
;B[eb]BL[1353.549]
;WL[1398.964]W[fb]
;B[ba]BL[1349.697]
(
;WL[1393.662]C[*** See variation.]W[nc]
;B[gc]BL[1330.572]
;WL[1381.527]W[gb]
;B[hc]BL[1326.242]
;WL[1368.263]W[hb]
;B[ic]BL[1320.424]
;WL[1365.294]W[fc]
;B[mc]BL[1312.039]
;WL[1361.1]W[md]
;B[lc]BL[1306.829]
;WL[1355.72]W[nd]
;B[he]BL[1295.752]
;WL[1350.205]W[pf]
;B[oe]BL[1290.123]
;WL[1347.063]W[qc]
;B[qd]BL[1287.239]
;WL[1345.681]W[pc]
;B[qg]BL[1277.02]
;WL[1337.54]W[og]
;B[nf]BL[1272.697]
;WL[1329.438]W[qf]
;B[pi]BL[1243.318]
;WL[1324.477]W[ng]
;B[mf]BL[1240.96]
;WL[1314.072]W[ni]
;B[pk]BL[1206.308]
;WL[1306.081]W[ke]
;B[lg]BL[1181.218]
;WL[1296.23]W[if]
;B[kd]BL[1170.573]
;WL[1286.433]W[ld]
;B[jd]BL[1164.666]
;WL[1282.049]W[lf]
;B[mg]BL[1161.791]
;WL[1250.737]W[kg]
;B[kh]BL[1150.923]
;WL[1241.372]W[jg]
;B[lj]BL[1132.452]
;WL[1237.566]W[nk]
;B[nl]BL[1087.073]
;WL[1225.868]W[mk]
;B[lk]BL[1054.873]
;WL[1222.584]W[ml]
;B[nm]BL[1044.92]
;WL[1217.224]W[ef]
;B[ln]BL[1015.293]
;WL[1208.927]W[ll]
;B[kl]BL[1012.662]
;WL[1195.413]W[qh]
;B[ph]BL[1005.255]
;WL[1192.153]W[pg]
;B[rg]BL[1002.553]
;WL[1189.597]W[rh]
;B[rf]BL[968.135]
;WL[1182.505]W[re]
;B[rd]BL[965.29]
;WL[1173.023]W[sf]
;B[gp]BL[929.459]
;WL[1111.349]W[oj]
;B[pj]BL[921.444]
;WL[1087.679]W[gg]
;B[jb]BL[899.919]
;WL[1029.436]W[kk]
;B[jk]BL[869.227]
;WL[991.88]W[kj]
;B[jj]BL[861.166]
;WL[988.31]W[ki]
;B[li]BL[850.271]
;WL[982.361]W[ji]
;B[jh]BL[847.548]
;WL[980.339]W[ii]
;B[ih]BL[845.255]
;WL[970.429]W[jl]
;B[hi]BL[812.749]
;WL[956.091]W[km]
;B[hg]BL[773.506]
;WL[940.907]W[hf]
;B[ig]BL[720.249]
;WL[923.643]W[je]
;B[hj]BL[683.849]
;WL[886.927]W[cj]
;B[dn]BL[664.875]
;WL[879.801]W[co]
;B[cn]BL[658.795]
;WL[871.208]W[fq]
;B[cq]BL[648.483]
;WL[862.733]W[cp]
;B[eq]BL[633.828]
;WL[853.993]W[dq]
;B[ep]BL[630.45]
;WL[845.328]W[er]
;B[gq]BL[580.784]
;WL[835.982]W[fp]
;B[eo]BL[575.083]
;WL[825.799]W[cr]
;B[fo]BL[559.297]
;WL[822.904]W[fr]
;B[ei]BL[539.471]
;WL[816.318]W[bg]
;B[ch]BL[525.553]
;WL[810.457]W[bh]
;B[ci]BL[517.58]
;WL[798.611]W[bi]
;B[dj]BL[513.959]
;WL[784.038]W[ck]
;B[mq]BL[465.461]
;WL[777.584]W[bf]
;B[ac]BL[457.299]
;WL[773.611]W[cg]
;B[gh]BL[447.808]
;WL[766.429]W[fg]
;B[dh]BL[444.581]
;WL[763.647]W[dg]
;B[il]BL[424.465]
;WL[757.623]W[im]
;B[hl]BL[415.729]
;WL[753.428]W[hm]
;B[gm]BL[400.182]
;WL[746.749]W[gl]
;B[ij]BL[382.673]
;WL[740.727]W[kl]
;B[fm]BL[373.833]
;WL[718.997]W[fk]
;B[dk]BL[361.595]
;WL[694.496]W[eh]
;B[di]BL[357.597]
;WL[683.324]W[fi]
;B[fh]BL[347.028]
;WL[679.355]W[fj]
;B[cl]BL[338.033]
;WL[660.074]W[el]
;B[dl]BL[334.243]
;WL[643.637]W[jq]
;B[jn]BL[322.839]
;WL[629.839]W[kn]
;B[jp]BL[306.692]
;WL[617.486]W[kp]
;B[jo]BL[299.717]
;WL[613.163]W[ko]
;B[iq]BL[289.663]
;WL[609.456]W[jr]
;B[jm]BL[272.834]
;WL[583.519]W[mo]
;B[no]BL[256.802]
;WL[579.862]W[mn]
;B[nn]BL[248.518]
;WL[571.296]W[np]
;B[nq]BL[243.337]
;WL[564.81]W[op]
;B[pp]BL[222.077]
;WL[558.875]W[oo]
;B[pm]BL[175.251]
;WL[546.832]W[po]
;B[mp]BL[165.91]
;WL[536.218]W[ro]
;B[rq]BL[129.196]
;WL[525.449]W[rl]
;B[rm]BL[106.774]
;WL[467.543]W[ql]
;B[qm]BL[94.439]
;WL[414.82]W[pl]
;B[ol]BL[89.21]
;WL[398.892]W[rj]
;B[ok]BL[81.995]
;WL[382.294]W[oi]
;B[qj]BL[55.103]
;WL[368.911]W[oq]
;B[or]BL[51.879]
;WL[351.388]W[pr]
;B[qr]BL[46.13]
;WL[346.585]W[nr]
;B[ps]BL[41.644]
;WL[345.271]W[mr]
;B[lo]BL[22.647]
;WL[342.2]W[mm]
;OB[5]B[lq]BL[30.0]
;WL[323.504]W[lr]
;OB[5]B[ri]BL[30.0]
;WL[284.264]W[sg]
;OB[5]B[rk]BL[30.0]
;WL[266.453]W[qp]
;OB[5]B[qq]BL[30.0]
;WL[261.409]W[rc]
;OB[5]B[sc]BL[30.0]
;WL[258.45]W[sb]
;OB[5]B[sd]BL[30.0]
;WL[257.071]W[rb]
;OB[5]B[bl]BL[30.0]
;WL[253.133]W[bj]
;OB[5]B[bn]BL[30.0]
;WL[250.205]W[bo]
;OB[5]B[bq]BL[30.0]
;WL[244.121]W[br]
;OB[5]B[mb]BL[30.0]
;WL[230.411]W[nb]
;OB[5]B[ge]BL[30.0]
;WL[212.026]W[hr]
;OB[5]B[hq]BL[30.0]
;WL[204.919]W[eg]
;OB[4]B[ie]BL[30.0]
;WL[195.291]W[gd]
;OB[4]B[jf]BL[30.0]
;WL[192.741]W[kf]
;OB[4]B[gf]BL[30.0]
;WL[178.149]W[ma]
;OB[4]B[la]BL[30.0]
;WL[174.949]W[na]
;OB[4]B[ir]BL[30.0]
;WL[161.438]W[ib]
;OB[4]B[ja]BL[30.0]
;WL[157.518]W[is]
;OB[4]B[gr]BL[30.0]
;WL[155.782]W[hs]
;OB[4]B[gs]BL[30.0]
;WL[154.218]W[js]
;OB[4]B[bp]BL[30.0]
;WL[146.686]W[ap]
;OB[4]B[jf]BL[30.0]
;WL[141.837]W[le]
;OB[4]B[rp]BL[30.0]
;WL[137.533]W[qo]
;OB[4]B[if]BL[30.0]
;WL[117.529]W[sp]
;OB[4]B[sq]BL[30.0]
;WL[115.916]W[so]
;OB[4]B[sm]BL[30.0]
;WL[108.427]W[mh]
;OB[4]B[mi]BL[30.0]
;WL[97.891]W[mj]
;OB[4]B[lh]BL[30.0]
;WL[92.696]W[nh]
;OB[4]B[es]BL[30.0]
;WL[85.804]W[ds]
;OB[4]B[fs]BL[30.0]
;WL[83.367]W[dr]
;OB[4]B[ho]BL[30.0]
;WL[70.015]W[ea]
;OB[4]B[ab]BL[30.0]
;WL[65.073]W[hd]
;OB[4]B[id]BL[30.0]
;WL[63.272]W[ia]
;OB[4]B[da]BL[30.0]
;WL[59.228]W[fa]
;OB[4]B[bk]BL[30.0]
;WL[56.364]W[ak]
;OB[4]B[al]BL[30.0]
;WL[55.145]W[aj]
;OB[4]B[si]BL[30.0]
;WL[47.972]W[an]
;OB[4]B[am]BL[30.0]
;WL[44.934]W[ao]
;OB[4]B[od]BL[30.0]
;WL[41.869]W[oc]
;OB[4]B[se]BL[30.0]
;WL[38.764]W[qe]
;OB[4]B[sh]BL[30.0]
;WL[22.745]W[qi]
;OB[4]B[sj]BL[30.0]
;WL[20.645]W[rg]
;OB[4]B[ns]BL[30.0]
;WL[9.851]W[kq]
;OB[4]B[on]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[ae]
;OB[4]B[ad]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[af]
;OB[4]B[pn]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[ms]
;OB[4]B[os]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[rs]
;OB[4]B[qs]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[sr]
;OB[4]B[tt]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[ne]
;OB[4]B[of]BL[30.0]
;OW[5]WL[30.0]W[tt]
(
;TB[aa][bb:bc][bm:em][ca][ej:gj][ek:ik][el:gl][en:in][fi:gi][go][hf][hh][hm:im][hp:ip][io][jc:kc][ka][kb:lb][om][pl:sl][qk][rj][sk]OB[2]TW[ag:ai][aq:cq][ar][as:cs][bp][cf:df][dd:ed][ga:ha][kr][ks:ls][lm:lo][lp:mp][lq:nq][nj][oa:sa][ob:qb][qg][rf]C[greenmint \[6k\]\: sorry
FluffM \[5k\]\: its ok
FluffM \[5k\]\: thanks
greenmint \[6k\]\: thx
]B[tt]BL[30.0]
)
(
;TB[aa][bb:bc][ca][hf][hh][hr][hs:ms][ii:ki][jc:kc][jl:sl][jq:oq][jr:nr][ka][kb:lb][kj:kk][km:so][kp:op][mh:sh][mj:sk][ng:sg][ni:si][pe:re][pf:sf][pr][qp][sp]OB[4]TW[ag:ai][cf:df][ga:ha][oa:sa][ob:qb]B[tt]BL[30.0]
)
)
(
;W[ab]
;B[ac]
;W[ad]
;B[ae]
;W[bf]
;B[ac]
;W[bg]
;B[aa]
;C[*** Good for White.]W[dh]
)
)
Re: Where did I go wrong? (5k v 6k)
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:26 am
by FluffM
Happy New Year everyone!!
You guys were so helpful I thought I'd come back and ask for more help.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2014/1/1/FluffM-golocbue.sgf
Again, I'm not sure where I went wrong. Did I handle the top right well? What could I have done better there? I don't seem to do well when my opponent plays three stones on one side, since I don't feel I can invade but I can't seem to make up for the loss later on.
I'd also like some more general advice on my play, if possible, based on these two games... what should I be studying in particular right now?