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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: Go Credit Card
Post #1 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:06 pm 
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Has anyone else seen this? I thought it was pretty awesome. I plan to get one of these as soon as possible. Although, I've never really had a credit card before so I'm kind of wary of them.


http://www.usgo.org/news/2011/06/capital-one-offers-new-aga-visa-card/

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Offline cdybeijing
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Post #2 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:26 pm 
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Why is an article on the AGA website dated June 27, 2011 referencing the upcoming 2010 Mind Games?
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Offline Jedo
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Post #3 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:28 pm 
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Very cool! Maybe when I'm an actual adult who has a credit card, I'll consider this.

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Offline lefuet
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Post #4 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:41 pm 
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why did black play in the corner? ..
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Offline LocoRon
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It looks like a tsumego.
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Offline Redundant
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Post #6 Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:33 am 
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LocoRon wrote:
It looks like a tsumego.


I can almost swear that I saw this problem in a book a 4d at my go club was studying...
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Offline Araban
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Post #7 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:04 pm 
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The tsumego on the card:

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[go]$$W
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | . . X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | . . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]

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Offline SoDesuNe
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Post #8 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:40 pm 
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Araban wrote:
The tsumego on the card:

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[go]$$W
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | . . X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | . . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]




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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | a 2 X . . X O . .
$$ | . . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


Shortage of liberties. If Black plays 'a' White just puts Atari with 2.
Did I miss something? =o

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Offline Redundant
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Post #9 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:53 pm 
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@Sodesune:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]
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Offline Kirby
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Post #10 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:57 pm 
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Redundant wrote:
@Sodesune:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


I didn't analyze this problem that much, but my initial thought from this position was that white could simply play here:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | O 1 X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | X . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


However, this makes me slightly nervous:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | 5 X O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 X O O O O . . .
$$ | O 1 X X X . O . .
$$ | 4 2 X . . X O . .
$$ | X . X X . X O . .
$$ | 7 6 O O X . O . .
$$ | O O 8 . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]
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Offline SoDesuNe
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Post #11 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:59 pm 
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Redundant wrote:
@Sodesune:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]




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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 3 X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


I thought cutting and capturing were obvious ^^



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Maybe this is the solution, does anyone has the concrete answer?


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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | 3 . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


Maybe this?

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | 7 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | 3 4 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 6 X X . X O . .
$$ | 5 . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]



Ha ha ha, no, snapback ^^ It's getting late.



BUT NOW!
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . 3 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | 8 X O . . . . . .
$$ | 7 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 5 X X X . O . .
$$ | 6 3 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 4 X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


:w9: at :w5: and feakin' under the stones!

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Go Credit Card
Post #12 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:12 pm 
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SoDesuNe wrote:
Redundant wrote:
@Sodesune:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]




Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 3 X X X . O . .
$$ | . . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


I thought cutting and capturing were obvious ^^



Kirby
Maybe this is the solution, does anyone has the concrete answer?


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | 3 . X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


Maybe this?

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | 7 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | 3 4 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 6 X X . X O . .
$$ | 5 . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]



Ha ha ha, no, snapback ^^ It's getting late.


It is the best I've come up with so far (ko).

This also doesn't seem to work:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | 5 O O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 X O . . . . . .
$$ | 9 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 2 7 X X X . O . .
$$ | 4 . X . . X O . .
$$ | 1 6 X X . X O . .
$$ | 8 0 O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]
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Offline judicata
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Post #13 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:13 pm 
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It's only a hard problem if you assume it is white to kill :).
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Offline Kirby
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Post #14 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:14 pm 
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However, I guess :b4: in this diagram was aji-keshi, and should be used as a ko threat:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | 5 X O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 X O O O O . . .
$$ | O 1 X X X . O . .
$$ | 4 2 X . . X O . .
$$ | X . X X . X O . .
$$ | 7 6 O O X . O . .
$$ | O O 8 . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


That is, it's probably better for black to play this way:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | 3 X O O O O . . .
$$ | O 1 X X X . O . .
$$ | C 2 X . . X O . .
$$ | X . X X . X O . .
$$ | 5 4 O O X . O . .
$$ | O O 6 . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


If he doesn't have good enough ko threats, he can always play the marked point. And, if he does have threats elsewhere, it can be a local threat for him.
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Offline SoDesuNe
 Post subject: Re: Go Credit Card
Post #15 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:16 pm 
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I edited above:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . 3 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | 8 X O . . . . . .
$$ | 7 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 5 X X X . O . .
$$ | 6 3 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 4 X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


:w9: at :w5: and freakin' under the stones!

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Offline Kirby
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Post #16 Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:19 pm 
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SoDesuNe wrote:
I edited above:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O . . . . . .
$$ | . X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 . X X X . O . .
$$ | . 3 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 . X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


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[go]$$Wc
$$ -------------------
$$ | X O O . . . . . .
$$ | 8 X O . . . . . .
$$ | 7 X O O O O . . .
$$ | 1 5 X X X . O . .
$$ | 6 3 X . . X O . .
$$ | 2 4 X X . X O . .
$$ | . . O O X . O . .
$$ | O O . . O O . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . .[/go]


:w9: at :w5: and freakin' under the stones!


Seems good to me.
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Post #17 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:38 am 
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I ordered the card right away, and just received a note from them saying it is coming in the mail. I think the card looks awesome, Mike Samuel always does a terrific job. I look forward to using the card, both because people will ask me what it is, and because a portion of the funds will support the AGA. As for the Tsumego people here have already solved it. The AGA home page put this up a few days ago: http://www.usgo.org/teach/methods.html
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Offline xed_over
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Post #18 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:44 am 
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shimari wrote:
As for the Tsumego people here have already solved it. The AGA home page put this up a few days ago: http://www.usgo.org/teach/methods.html

Shouldn't it be this link instead? http://www.usgo.org/problems/375/prob.php
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Post #19 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:50 am 
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hailthorn011 wrote:
Has anyone else seen this? I thought it was pretty awesome. I plan to get one of these as soon as possible. Although, I've never really had a credit card before so I'm kind of wary of them.


http://www.usgo.org/news/2011/06/capital-one-offers-new-aga-visa-card/


Nice image.
I have had credit cards before, have a few now. They are cool.
However - what I personally am wary of is Capital One. Not sure I want to do business with them...

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Offline shimari
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Post #20 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:23 pm 
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xed_over wrote:
shimari wrote:
As for the Tsumego people here have already solved it. The AGA home page put this up a few days ago: http://www.usgo.org/teach/methods.html

Shouldn't it be this link instead? http://www.usgo.org/problems/375/prob.php


Lol, sorry :oops: I sent 40 e-mails out to various AGF programs yesterday, and that string of text was in one of them. Guess I failed to copy the right link when I posted here.
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