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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #601 Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . e . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . d . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . f . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O 6 . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . a X 5 b c . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

These are the moves that come to mind (if this game is continuing), with e and f marking areas rather than specific moves.

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Online Jedo
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #602 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:13 am 
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Alright then, I think basically our choice is to extend up or down. This begs the question of which is more important, the top or the bottom. If we go up:


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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O 6 . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 5 7 . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . 8 . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This seems pretty troublesome; white can just slide into the second line if that makes better shape. This is compounded by the fact that I don't think extending up to the top is really worth that much, since it doesn't really threaten to poke into white's territory, and I don't think it makes much of our own because the thick white center group can easily gouge away.

So my suggestion:

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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now there's no doubt that this is objectively bad shape for us since we've created a symmetrical position and allowed white the next move, but I think the benefits outweigh the costs.

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Offline Jordus
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #603 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:37 pm 
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Jedo has the bottom part covered with a move so I figure this move is probably one of the next biggest...
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[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . 1 . 2 . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . 7 . 6 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . 5 . 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #604 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:10 pm 
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I have one explicit suggestion...

Jordus, is your :b1: your suggestion?
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Offline Jordus
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #605 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:21 pm 
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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #606 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:44 am 
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Suggestion:
Jedo's move seems right to me, but I think I'll offer this suggestion for variety. We can make some use of that right side stone.
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . 7 . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #607 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:51 am 
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #608 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:25 am 
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . b . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . d . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O c . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I like moving around a, b, c, or d. A, IIRC starts a ko for the corner. We might want to make some threats before playing that, though. B is just a land grab. C threatens a large turn, and makes us some points. D tries to eat that one stone on a large scale, but leaves black a good move around b.
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 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #609 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:44 am 
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I'm going with my previous suggestion:

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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . W . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It somehow tries to combine Red's b and d.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #610 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm57 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . W . X . . z . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Why stop there? Let's threaten an invasion! This may be ridiculously greedy, but that's how the cookie dies in gote. Basically, I feel like we need SOMETHING on top to not make our framework look silly, and I want to see if we can get some of it in sente. If we're pincered, we can at least consider counterpincering and fighting for it. Or moving out and letting our thickness battle their attempt at a base. And even if black eats M12, K12 and then K16 looks pretty big.

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Post #611 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:43 pm 
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I like both previous suggestions locally. I'll offer the move in the upper left with c18.
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Post #612 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:56 am 
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[go]$$Bcm63 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


@Team:

The invasion looks premature, but this feels like such a big point, and if Black tries anything complicated, we have all those ko threats to use in the top left. Even the invasion works in that regard.


@Obs:

That left hand side is surprisingly important, because whoever gets to play there first can seriously mess up the other person's shape. I kinda wanted this double hane:

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[go]$$Bcm63 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . 2 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O 6 . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X 2 5 . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 3 4 . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 7 . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #613 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:09 pm 
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There doesn't seem to be much interest in this game, and we are in a bad way. Resign?

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #614 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:41 pm 
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fwiffo wrote:
Black internal:
There doesn't seem to be much interest in this game, and we are in a bad way. Resign?

I feel like a doctor who wants to bury one of his patients. I vote yes.
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Post #615 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:02 pm 
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I'll go with whatever decision you guys make. Until then here is my suggestion...

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[go]$$Bcm Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . 2 . 1 . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . 5 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


something like this I guess....

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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #616 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:08 pm 
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I don't know about the :b3: - :w4: exchange in your diagram; the ladder is good for us.

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[go]$$Bcm B2 tenuki
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . 9 . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . 5 8 0 . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . 1 4 6 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm11 Continued
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . O . X 7 . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . 5 4 6 X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . X 2 3 . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . X O O 1 O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |[/go]


But my move is still to resign.

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #617 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:56 pm 
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@Jedo:
Two of us are in favor of resigning. How do you vote?
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Online Jedo
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Post #618 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:00 pm 
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I personally think it's too early to resign just yet. Here's my suggestion:


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[go]$$Bcm63 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . 3 . 2 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Perhaps we can make use of the aji from the stones already floating in the middle

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[go]$$Bcm63 Prisoners: None
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . 5 . . 3 . 2 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . , 4 . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . O X . O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . O X X . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . O . X O . O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . X O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . O X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Perhaps other players woudl rather just push in to white's moyo, but I'm not sure if that's enough. thoughts?

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Teamovitch #1
Post #619 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:27 pm 
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Topazg is taking a break. And our team has been discussing whether or not to resign. Shall we all quit this game?
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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #620 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:14 am 
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Sure, I would love to read all comments for this game. Thank you all for an interesting game.

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