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Offline scara
 Post subject: Low ranked Go server
Post #1 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:15 pm 
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Is there an alternate server for relatively weak (DDK) players?

I'm kinda tired of escapers and those who offer free games even when I've explicitly ruled it out.

KGS has worn me down. The ratio of bad behavior to good games is too high for me but I've tried IGS and am totally crushed.
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Offline jts
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Post #2 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:29 pm 
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scara wrote:
Is there an alternate server for relatively weak (DDK) players?

I'm kinda tired of escapers and those who offer free games even when I've explicitly ruled it out.

KGS has worn me down. The ratio of bad behavior to good games is too high for me but I've tried IGS and am totally crushed.


What's the ratio that has you so upset? I tried to look at your account but kgs doesn't list any games under 'scara'.
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Offline Dusk Eagle
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #3 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:15 pm 
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I don't recall much bad behaviour on KGS when I was a DDK a couple of years ago. If anything, I think KGS is one of the better servers for DDK, with things such as the Beginner's Room (worth checking out), people's willingness to teach on the server (see the KGS Teaching Ladder room), and the relatively low amount of sandbaggers when compared to other servers.

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Offline xed_over
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #4 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:46 pm 
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use automatch
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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #5 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:32 pm 
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Welcome to L19.

Hang around here, meet people, and maybe you can schedule game with them, either casually or formally as described in this thread: http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 061#p78061
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Offline CnP
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #6 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:32 am 
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use automatch
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Offline Li Kao
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #7 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:42 am 
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My experience with automatch is that guests often escape, but registered players rarely do. So I'd use automatch and disable "Unranked players".

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Offline Araban
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Post #8 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:25 am 
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flyordie.

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Offline karaklis
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Post #9 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:23 am 
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Araban wrote:
flyordie.

Not a good idea. If you don't play there regularly, your rating will be reset to 0 quite soon.

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Offline Araban
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #10 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:28 am 
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karaklis wrote:
Araban wrote:
flyordie.

Not a good idea. If you don't play there regularly, your rating will be reset to 0 quite soon.
Not that much different than KGS where your rating goes to [?]. The pros outweigh the cons on that server for beginners regardless.

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Offline karaklis
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #11 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:09 am 
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Agreed. For very beginners the rating is quite uninteresting anyway. Usually you get a match quickly as a beginner, you will be challenged by some player in the room.

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Offline tchan001
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Post #12 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:35 am 
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Offline goddess
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Post #13 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:48 pm 
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I just tried FlyOrDie. It is worse than the Gaming Zone used to be.

Yuck.
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Offline xed_over
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #14 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:41 pm 
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goddess wrote:
I just tried FlyOrDie. It is worse than the Gaming Zone used to be.

Yuck.

LOL :lol:

it has its charms
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Offline pete
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #15 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:14 pm 
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You could try GoShrine (http://goshrine.com). All 19x19 games are ranked, and there are no escapers; if you leave a game, you will lose.

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Offline karaklis
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Post #16 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:38 am 
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goddess wrote:
I just tried FlyOrDie. It is worse than the Gaming Zone used to be.

Yuck.

LOL. It takes some time getting used to it. One funny thing is that you play on a 15x15 board. I play there every now and then, before going to sleep, when I am bored with TV program and when there are no new posts on L19 ;-) Since the rating is reset to 0 after some (quite short) time, I often get challenges from opponents around 200 pts who obviously want to smash some (apparent) beginner. Usually I wipe the board with them. But generally the server is beginner friendly and also has a good escaper policy (if you leave the room, you have lost). If you manage to hide the annoying flickering ad behind an "always-on-top" IrfanView window, it is ok to play there.

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Offline goddess
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Post #17 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:37 am 
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hate the 15 x 15 board.

It is big enough to be an investment of time.

It is non standard enough so the opening is all screwed up.

No plus side in my opinion.

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Offline karaklis
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Post #18 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:21 pm 
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Not sure whether some time investment in a 15x15 game is bad. Yeah, most standard sequences may not work on that board size, but it forces you to reflect more on your moves. Learning this kind of tactic would help you on other board sizes as well.

The reason why I don't like it very much is that you rarely get even matches. But for a beginner that doesn't count. If he has a non-even match, it is a teaching game for him.

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Offline xed_over
 Post subject: Re: Low ranked Go server
Post #19 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:31 pm 
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goddess wrote:
hate the 15 x 15 board.

I like it.

Much better than 13 x 13. Yet still smaller than 19 x 19 (smaller boards are good when I don't want to spend hours playing a game)
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Offline tezza
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Post #20 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:37 am 
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Just tried flyordie. Not too bad for beginners like me. Needed to get used to 15x15.

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