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Offline kwhyte
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #101 Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:59 pm 
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emeraldemon wrote:
As a side note: would there be any interest in creating a Mac application for Fuego? If people think they would use it, I could try to make a binary for Mac users.


I absolutely would, I just spent a few hours last week looking for one online.

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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #102 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:28 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 No Prisoners
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . 8 O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sorry for the delay. No moves look good to me. :(

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 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #103 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:12 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 No Prisoners
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O 9 O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


value: 49.0%

Sequence:
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[go]$$Bcm69 No Prisoners
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O 1 O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . 2 O X 5 6 . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 3 O 7 X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X 0 . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . 9 O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I assume Daniel will connect, so I'll wait until next move to write some analysis.
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Offline flOvermind
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #104 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:00 am 
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If the sequence really turns out the way Fuego thinks it will, especially with white getting 72, then I think white essentially has a won game. White will get a huge attack on the left side black stones and the top left corner. If the top white stones die (and that's a big if), it could get close again, but I don't think that would be enough to catch up completely...

Of course, Fuego could change its mind about 71, so this is all pretty speculative right now ;)
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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #105 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:50 pm 
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Is this game still on? I don't want to rush you, just wondering.
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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #106 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:02 pm 
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I'm so sorry, I'm a bad person. :(

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[go]$$Bcm61 No Prisoners
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . b O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . a O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 0 . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger: if a, then b.

I wanted to connect, but I think that way I end up with three almost dead groups. This way the middle group looks decent and black will eventually have to connect to something. I don't feel real good about this game right now, I say I have only a 35% or so chance of winning it.

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #107 Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:08 am 
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Don't be silly, we're not in any hurry. in my DGS games I often leave a game to sit for a while if I'm not sure how to proceed.

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Value: 52.4%

Up 2.4% from last move, a pretty big jump. When we review this game, we should definitely come back to here, I think if white had connected he had a decent chance to kill the black group, which would have been huge.

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[go]$$Bcm73 Sequence
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 0 . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . 7 4 X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 8 O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . 9 6 . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The order is a bit muddled, but it seems black wants to push along here in sente, then switch to the left corner. Black spent 93% of playouts here, but for :b75: it was split 70%-23% between pushing again and playing C16:

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . 5 X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


We'll see how it decides next move.
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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #108 Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:28 pm 
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OK, well, that one is an easy decision!

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #109 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:33 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 5 O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Value: 52.5%

Same move as predicted last sequence, but it was close: 63% of playouts at G11, 33% at C16.

Sequence:
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[go]$$Bcm75 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . 3 X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 9 6 O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 0 . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 1 O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 7 8 . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I like black's position here, it seems that white still has a weak group, possibly two if black can live in the corner. One concern: black doesn't want to chase white into the hard-won moyo on the lower right. On the plus side for white, there's the potential to take all four corners this game, easily 50 points.
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Post #110 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , 6 . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Another really tough choice. I really want to play another move in the corner, but I don't want black to solidify his center in sente, either.

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Post #111 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:48 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Value: 53.0%

I think this is the most optimistic Fuego has been about the game so far.


Sequence:
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[go]$$Bcm77 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . 6 0 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . 3 2 8 . , O 5 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #112 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:22 am 
Oza
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 8 O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, let's hope I can get enough forcing moves to live here. Or maybe black will mess up and die. :)

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #113 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:26 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoners: 1 b
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Value: 51.7% , down 1.3% from last move.

Expected Sequence:
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[go]$$Bcm79 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 8 O O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 0 . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , 7 3 2 4 . , O 5 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wouldn't be surprised if white plays b15 right away. Does D18 make a living shape?
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Offline prokofiev
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #114 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:38 pm 
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emeraldemon wrote:
Value: 51.7% , down 1.3% from last move.

Expected Sequence:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm79 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . O . X . . O X . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O X . O . X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 8 O O O O X X . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O O . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . 0 . . . X O X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , 7 3 2 4 . , O 5 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . , . . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . X . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wouldn't be surprised if white plays b15 right away. Does D18 make a living shape?

I read it as alive, with C18 and B19 miai in interesting lines?
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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #115 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:31 pm 
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I haven't forgotten about this, I just haven't been able to concentrate long enough to read something reasonable out...

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #116 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:43 pm 
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Offline k43r
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #117 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:02 pm 
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I just wanted to say that it's very interesting game, and I've subscribe to see future moves. keep going guys!
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Offline dwest
 Post subject: Re: 135. daniel_the_smith (2d) vs Fuego (bot)
Post #118 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:51 pm 
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Any chance of this game resuming? I was enjoying the whole man vs. machine aspect of the game :)
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