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SAI gives the only right answer to this
why is the only right answer? White can make any move and still win (maybe almost any :) )

here https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?p=244851#p244851 really the only right answer

Nope, you are probably forgetting the tiny differences between japanese and ...

Think how many chocolate go sets could have been created with the budget for this special event.

Yeah, budget was 1k euro for every invited team plus (I guess) something for the two host venues.

I compared the original teams line up with those who played there, I think almost all the teams ...

He was not acquitted.

"We do not think that it was proven without a reasonable doubt that Carlo Metta broke any rules" means that the first accusation was not solid enough, not that he was proven innocent.


But here a big issue arises: in such a case it is impossible to prove one innocence ...

I think It is interesting to ask to the Panel Board what do they think about Metta case last year. He will probably play at the same level also this year and I bet every one of his moves will be scanned with every AI at our disposal.

So what the Panel Board is going to do if he will play like last ...

It does not tell us whether he used Leela, got someone else playing instead of him or whatever. It just says that is is very unlikely that Metta's regular games and internet games "were played by the same person".



Here it is where you are wrong. It does not say that "is very unlikely that ...

AlesCieply wrote:
I have no idea how Mero performs in other games. I guess his performance oscillates, but one cannot say for sure before doing the analysis. Have you noted Bajenaru also scored only about 50% of good moves while Carlo had 77%.

... while Carlo had 66.7% according to your spreadsheet.

Some notes on the internet games played by Carlo before the accusation:
:black: The data shown in the current analysis are from new runs, so the results are slightly different from those in the earlier analysis (e.g. Carlo had 68% of good moves in the old analysis of the Kulkov-Metta game, it ...

I have already tried to analyze two games with AQ but found Leela's winrate estimates much more reliable/stable.

This is not surprising at all. Are you familiar with the term supervised learning? Leela 0.11 is trained from human games (supervised learning), other software learned from scratch ...

I believe that's what my analysis does.


Nope, it doesn't because you are not blind to Carlo moves and games. As long as you try to shape a new method to prove if Carlo cheated or not your calibration of such a method will suffer from huge bias. You need to broaden your perspective.


It ...

It seems from Pandanet record that Carlo had 1 minutes left for the next 4 moves (canadian byo style). Maybe Pandanet countdown started to raise an alarm causing that blunder.

Fun fact, the game was already over for him even with a perfect play (lost by 1.5 instead 2.5 or something like that) so it ...

Javaness2 wrote:
No. This would not preclude an appeal

But I understood that a penalty or disqualification would exchange ranking between Poland and Romania. So how can the top 4 teams play under an open ruling? Am I missing something here?

Bojanic wrote: Ah, you just came up with 12 Herculean tasks of AI go.
Good idea how to stop investigation, too bad it does not work.

I heard from one of top team that the final ranking is approved. They send invitation to EGC for PGETC finals to the 4 top team. I guees that case is over for EGF officials.

My name is Milos Bojanic, not Bogdan, and I already explained here as well as in paper update: in preliminary analysis I checked all games from A league and qualifications. Some ten games looked suspicious in deviations histogram,
After more detailed analysis, some were fismissed, and two with ...

Carlo's motivation is a factor in considering his guilt, especially as all we have in the game record are coincidences that may have arisen by chance. But, truth to say, the facet that the team had already lost may have increased his personal motivation, since the risk was his alone.

From PGETC ...

Maybe because Carlo used Leela and not the AQ that came out in March 2018? According to Leela there are not so big jumps over those 40 moves, so Carlo could not have realized that his winrate goes up and down that much. He might also not used Leela for all his moves.

AQ was first released on 17 ...