Life In 19x19

How on earth is it a locally settled area? Well.. let's call the small Black group as group 1, White group as group 2, large Black group as group 3.

Group 2 is alive. No one argues against this. What about the others?
If group 3 is alive, group 1 is alive, Right? If group 3 is dead, group 1 is ...

It is one reason I really hate a Go ruleset with diagrams presenting only local shapes being announced. It is usually due to the lack of effort, and it can lead to many confusions and speculations. I prefer the whole board shape, even in 9x9 or 13x13 board, be included in the diagram.

I'm not sure which version you refer to, but beware a huge typo in Jasiek's English copy of the 2002 version (outer W stones missing in dia 4 - cf. in Chinese ). The 1988 version shows the correct original of the same example (dia 5 there). "Four kos among three groups" if you meant this? Wow ...

As you wrote Chinese rules use human judgement and list examples to help it. They list triple ko as draw and moonshine life as dead. The superko principle - when applied - should allow capturing B, and they seem to apply it for moonshine life while not apply for real triple ko. Otoh I never heard ...

looking at that position again, i'm not convinced white could actually capture the black unsettled group.
because it would be triple ko. under aga rules, white could capture, but under most other rule sets, it would either be a draw, or the black unsettled group lives. Black group will eventually ...

Oh I just realized jaeup posted in here. :clap:

Jaeup is what I wrote, especially that Japanese rules give the opposite result, right? Yes, Black doesn't have a chance to make a life under the Japanese rule. The Chinese rule involves a "human judgement" in this case, and I was surprised to hear ...

Thanks - I didn't realize there was already a thread. I also don't know what the official definition of "dispute" is, I suppose. In this case, there was at least a misunderstanding. Yes, there WAS a dispute. Both players were unsure, and the situation came to the referee. Even the referee changed ...

Can someone clarify what happened in the Nongshim cup?

I have many questions: Was there a rematch, was there ever going to be a rematch, did anyone say there was to be rematch, why did I think there was going to be a rematch, and did anyone else think there would be a rematch? The rematch was ...

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Nongshim Cup 221126 Kang Dongyoon(W) vs Tuo Jiaxi(B) (Of course played under the Korean Rule)

Here is the simple explanation.

Are the double-ko at G1 playable during the hypothetical play when confirming the life and death of the large Black unsettled group? Note that Korean rule does ...

As to prohibiting electronic devices when playing in tournaments, how to define them? Every basic digital watch, and some analogue watches, are electronic devices. If we prohibit smartphones, we must also prohibit smartwatches. So what is the difference between a basic digital watch, which might be ...

some moves that are not even eyes are considered points in this ruleset, and don't have to be made provided the automatic scoring is sufficiently good. In practice, it will be quite difficult to write a logical ruleset that automatically distinguishes such "hidden" points. Most area scoring ...

I'm not sure which rules or version you (both) refer to, but unless it's territory scoring I'm curious if ignoring dame could really work in all cases (board/seki/dame parities, B first or W first in particular). Once the Button Go is properly introduced, in more than 95% of the cases, regardless ...

What value button is that? One point? If there's only one dame left it's to your advantage to fill the dame. I think I need a bit more explanation. After some more thoughts, I realized that I probably miscalculated it. I am sorry for the confusion.

I still think there is no harm recommending ...

Great. I knew KataGo has quite a few scoring modes, but I admit that I haven't followed the way KataGo is implemented. I am surprised to hear its ultra-flexiblility. (I really need to learn it someday.) I hope other AI makers follow such a strategy. I was tired of them saying "My AI is super-strong ...

The only thing is that online players don't like filling dame. Of course the only practical way to test a ruleset (for fairness in practice, for example) is to add it to some online server.

Is there any way to chill the scoring where dame are not worth anything even if you forgot to fill them? I ...