151. Shadonra vs. illluck

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 151. Shadonra vs. illluck

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Re: 151. Shadonra vs. illluck

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O 3 O O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . X . . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 4 X . . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Seems like my cut was overplay-ish as now black can get profit by pushing through. Still, I think I may have some hopes at some centre through using aji around left side cut and M8. I play this extend out rather than atari at G10 even though black C12 would hurt because letting black E12 in sente seems even worse.
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Re: 151. Shadonra vs. illluck

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . 5 X . X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X . . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


POINTS.
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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X 6 . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 151. Shadonra vs. illluck

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Bump?
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Re: 151. Shadonra vs. illluck

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X 7 X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X O . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . 8 . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X O . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Did not expect that, but that's a good exchange for black as it makes me playing C10 after I make a capture less dangerous for him as well as leaving cut aji. I think this is my only move as I can't allow my C14 stones to get killed.
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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X 9 . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O X O . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Oh, this'll be fun.
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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X 9 . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 0 . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . X , . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 2 . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black's last move is quite annoying as it removes my potential while enlarging his. I considered just trying to connect back with a one-point jump, but I don't see a very clear connection and even if I do I think I'm behind and can't afford moves like that. This move seeks to create some sort of liberty issues.
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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O . X 3 . . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . O . . X . O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Oh god, I misread really hard.
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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X X O O X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . O . O X X X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . O O X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . X . . . X O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . X O O O X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X X X X O O O . X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X X . . X O X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . O 4 X X . . X O . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . O . X . O . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O O O O X . O . X O X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X X X X O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Mmm, black decided to back off, makes sense since he is ahead. Black still needs to spend a move to protect and I'll decide on my next move later as I don't feel like I'm up for the thinking tonight. I don't want to push at K9 unless I have to because black will probably capture and I lose the N13/M14 atari endgame. My dilemma is mostly in deciding whether I should cut at C7, peep at it, or something like C10 (if any of them are even possible). It's all so confusing XD
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