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by Boidhre Thu May 24, 2012 4:02 am
Fascinating move!
$$Wcm11 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by Boidhre Thu May 24, 2012 4:04 am
For the record, so far I've played closed book.
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by EdLee Thu May 24, 2012 6:55 am
Boidhre, after the game:
is soft -- W is thin, so B should break out, split W into weak groups, and fight; not cowering with
.
$$W
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by Celebrir Thu May 24, 2012 11:33 pm
I'm at a tournament over pentecost so don't wonder why I don't make moves
$$Wcm11 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by Boidhre Thu May 24, 2012 11:45 pm
I've a tournament over the weekend too, so I'll be similarly slow taking moves.
Anyway, this was being far too peaceful.
$$Wcm11 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by Celebrir Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:36 pm
$$Wcm11 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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Now the fight starts. I hope to get some strength to reduce the left. I'm not sure about the continuation, but everything I read out is okay for me. The worst I find is this:
$$cm1 Dia.1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm1 Dia.1I think I have good moves at 'a' and 'b', but I'm ready to sacrifiece the
stones to play 'c'
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by Boidhre Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:42 am
$$Wcm11 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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$$Wcm17 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm17 Prisoners: W:0 B:0Aiming for a in the future. I'll happily exchange some of the top for some outside thickness here. I've played for influence on the left so a wall facing down is nice I think. I know things are a bit strange with me going for territory on the right but 4 stone is weird and I'm pursuing a strategy of two solid corners + moyo. I've no idea if this works or not.
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by hyperpape Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:26 am
Boidhre, please read later:
$$Wcm17 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm17 Prisoners: W:0 B:0That's not thickness. The four stones aren't 100% heavy, but they're not thick. White can't yet play at
c or
d , until he addresses the two black cutting stones, but once he does, he can play against those three black stones.
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by Celebrir Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:49 am
$$Wcm11 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by EdLee Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:52 am
Celebrir wrote: I think this cut is a must be.
For beginners: yes, of course
is forced. Otherwise the following broken shape result is impossible for W:
$$Wm19
tenuki
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . . X . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . O X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X 2 O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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by EdLee Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:59 am
Boidhre, for later:
About your variation: on an even more basic level,
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$$Wm17
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by Boidhre Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:43 am
$$Wcm19 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by Celebrir Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:15 am
$$Wcm21 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by Boidhre Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:20 am
$$Wcm21 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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by Celebrir Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:24 am
$$Wcm21 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
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This is a little trick to make things more complex. I don't want to play the atari to conect my stones because it gives me less possibilities but I still want to protect the cut. This move does that:
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W:0 B:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W:0 B:0If this happens I hope to have two groups I can attack.
is soft -- W is thin, so B should break out, split W into weak groups, and fight; not cowering with 
stones to play 'c'
is forced. Otherwise the following broken shape result is impossible for W:
ends in gote: