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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by LexC » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:38 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm67 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . 1 . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post by EdLee » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:50 am

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Post by EdLee » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:54 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm68 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Decided

:b67:

is gote. After :w66:

:w66:

helps the W group, I have more freedom.

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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by LexC » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:34 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm69 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post by EdLee » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:33 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm70 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X . X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . 1 X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by LexC » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:10 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm71 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X 1 X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post by EdLee » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:47 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm72 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Still not sure. :-|

:-|

Part of the reason for the timing of :w70:

:w70:

atari was to prepare for :w72:

:w72:

.
Is that a shared area of sorts? Maybe something like :b1:

:b1:

(helps the (a) areas for B).
I'm still hoping, with every move, to slowly make the tengen :bc:

:bc:

inefficient/misplaced --
not sure if that's happening, either. :-|

:-|

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . . . a . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . 1 . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . B . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by LexC » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:55 am

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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by Loons » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:50 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm72 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . . . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . B O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . B O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . B O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . B O . | $$ | . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . B . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , a . . . . B . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

I thought about it for a little bit, and I really want to play 'a' and try to drag the game to the marked stones. I was initially thinking about 'b', but I don't want to spend a move in black's bottom left while it seems to have options.

Of course, I have lost my last twelve million games straight, so who knows. In other news, I'm not entirely sure why black was thinking about white playing Q2.

Revisiting Go - Study Journal
My Programming Blog - About the evolution of my go bot.

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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by LexC » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:06 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm31 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . 1 . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

What I read

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm31 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . 1 . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O 3 O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . 4 5 . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm31 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . 1 . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O 2 O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post by EdLee » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:24 am

Interesting. I didn't consider :b73:

:b73:

. Actually I didn't know what B was going to do, so I was curious.
I wonder if :b73:

:b73:

had anything to do with the idea "often, your opponent's move is also your move":

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ --------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . X X . . . . . . $$ | . X X X . X . . X X $$ | . O X O . . . X O , $$ | . O X O . . . X O . $$ | . O X O . 1 . . X . $$ | . . O X X . . . . . $$ | . O . O . O . . . . $$ | . . O . . . . . . . $$ | . . O , . . . . . X $$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]

He probably did not want having to reduce W's libs directly...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . X X . . . . . . $$ | . X X X . X . . X X $$ | . O X O . . . X O , $$ | . O X O . . . X O . $$ | . O X O 1 . . . X . $$ | . . O X X . . . . . $$ | . O . O . O . . . . $$ | . . O . . . . . . . $$ | . . O , . . . . . X $$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]

...nor did he want this result:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . X X . . . . . . $$ | . X X X . X . . X X $$ | . O X O . . . X O , $$ | . O X O . . . X O . $$ | . O X O . . . . X . $$ | . . O X X 1 2 . . . $$ | . O . O . O . . . . $$ | . . O . . . . . . . $$ | . . O , . . . . . X $$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]

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Post by EdLee » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:05 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm74 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . X . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . 1 X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Not sure if it's the biggest, but it's pretty big.

Maybe the

:wc:

-

:bc:

exchange was lucky, as I wasn't sure if :wc:

:wc:

was sente.
One idea was even though :wc:

:wc:

is far away, maybe it has some bearing with this :bt:

:bt:

group?
Another idea was :ws:

:ws:

and

:wt:

-- big yose-ish moves by themselves -- were also preparing for :w74:

:w74:

:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm74 $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . B . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . W . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . @ . Y . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . 1 Y . . Y . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Q . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Re: 165 LexC vs EdLee

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Post by LexC » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:46 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bm75 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . X . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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Post by EdLee » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:10 am

If tenuki from :bc:

:bc:

(

:w1:

or otherwise) -- after :b2:

:b2:

, (a) fails, and (b)...?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . 2 b . . . . . . . . O . . $$ | . O a X . . . . . , . . . . $$ | . O X . . X . 1 . O . . O . $$ | . B . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ -----------------------------[/go]

Variation (a):

Variation (b):

EdLee: Honinbo; Posts: 8859; Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:49 pm; GD Posts: 312; Location: Santa Barbara, CA; Has thanked: 349 times; Been thanked: 2070 times

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Post by EdLee » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wm76 Prisoners: $$ ----------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . X X O . . O . O X . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O , O . . . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O . . . X O . . . . O . . . X . | $$ | . O X O . X . . X . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . | $$ | . O 1 X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X . . X . . . O . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

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