#158 - topazg vs speedchase

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[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This bend looks ultra stabilising for my group if he ignores it, and a useful launching platform into the middle if he responds. It also prevents Black from making too many points in this area. I'm trying to keep open a number of further options to reduce his position from different angles.
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Re: #158 - topazg vs speedchase

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[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i want to stay connect here
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was already a bit worried about this group and side generally, so I'll reinforce here. I think I've probably done sufficient damage to the middle for it to be quite hard for Black to build a large number of points, and I still have plenty of useful endgame I think.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Very large endgame, because I can play on either side
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O 1 . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X 4 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O O . . . . 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . O O , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


That's nice, he's fixed my left side aji for me :)
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I resign. Thank you very much for the game.
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speedchase wrote:I resign. Thank you very much for the game.
May I ask why?
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Thanks very much to you too :)
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EdLee wrote:May I ask why?

I counted, and it seems to me like even with the most generous biasing in my favor, not to mention completely ignoring the fact that some of my groups are unsettled leaves me 10-20 points behind. I could be wrong though...
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Quick Question: was I hallucinating majorly, or does this work? No one really mentioned it in the comments


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[go]$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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speedchase wrote:Quick Question: was I hallucinating majorly, or does this work? No one really mentioned it in the comments


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm, I actually didn't even look at it. I think part of my issue is I figured I needed to be very careful with the thin-ness on the left, whilst you have the cut at "a" below I was mostly aiming to seal you in rather than kill outright, and then perhaps defend the corner in sente later.

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[go]$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | . a O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . . O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Continuation:

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[go]$$Bcm61 W:0 B:0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 9 O . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 7 , X . . . . , . . X . X , O . . |
$$ | . 6 5 . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 O X . O X . X . O . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . O X X . O X . . . . O . . . . O X . |
$$ | 4 1 O X . . O X X X X . . . . O X . X |
$$ | . 2 O X . O . O O O . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Good for Black?


I'm not saying what I played was any better, and looking at it, your move does look probably more dangerous (or, at least, more advantageous even if it doesn't kill), I just hadn't considered it really.
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I see. Thank you
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