The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
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The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
This online tournament is sponsored by SportAccord, the City government of Beijing, and Pandanet. Top prize is an all-included trip to observe the Second SportAccord World Mind Games held in Beijing later this year. There are other prizes for sectional winners as well, plus three iPAD's to be given as lottery prizes drawn among all players who finish the preliminary round!
Registration for this event is free and is now open. See below for details.
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
Registration for this event is free and is now open. See below for details.
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Hsiang wrote:This online tournament is sponsored by SportAccord, the City government of Beijing, and Pandanet. Top prize is an all-included trip to observe the Second World Mind Sports Games held in Beijing later this year. There are other prizes for sectional winners as well, plus three iPAD's to be given as lottery prizes drawn among all players who finish the preliminary round!
Registration for this event is free and is now open. See below for details.
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
Wait, 2nd World Mind Sports Games in Beijing?
Is that just a typo or are they claiming the mantle of the first WMSG? (Not that I'd mind, Beijing put on a great show)
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Of course it is a typo. Should be the Second "SportAcccord World Mind Games", not the "World Mind Sport Games". The title of the thread is, luckily, correct.
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Which rules of play are used or allowed, which if the players disagree? If IGS-Japanese Rules, for which this link states the AFAIK still valid description,
http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/igsrules.html
are used, then how are the rules' scoring ambiguities resolved in case of the players' disagreement? Typical problem: indirect approach kos.
In the preliminary stage, how do the players find their opponents? May potential opponent's refuse to play?
Since GoPanda is prescribed for Windows PCs, where can I find information on its PC security?
A player's internet connection origin may be verified. I suppose this can be done by ISP. However, is there really a relation of ISPs to regions in the world? E.g., satellite providers or redirection services can make it hard to identify the player's region. It is impossible to verify that a player plays at home, e.g. if he uses a mobile access and plays in a park. The rule "You must play your games at your home." cannot be verified well.
http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/igsrules.html
are used, then how are the rules' scoring ambiguities resolved in case of the players' disagreement? Typical problem: indirect approach kos.
In the preliminary stage, how do the players find their opponents? May potential opponent's refuse to play?
Since GoPanda is prescribed for Windows PCs, where can I find information on its PC security?
A player's internet connection origin may be verified. I suppose this can be done by ISP. However, is there really a relation of ISPs to regions in the world? E.g., satellite providers or redirection services can make it hard to identify the player's region. It is impossible to verify that a player plays at home, e.g. if he uses a mobile access and plays in a park. The rule "You must play your games at your home." cannot be verified well.
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
A similar format is used in The Pandanet Cup http://www.pandanet.co.jp/event/iwag2012/e/. It is very fun! I registered for the ranked sections and played some games with 3 and 4 dans. The games are played in a different room and you don't see what rank people have but you can watch games. Some clients have problems with this, maybe not showing any players at all when you enter the room. I find out their rank when I get the game record in email from the server.
Some players are probably motivated to find weaker players. The right spirit is to not worry much about who you are playing :) and because you can only play one game with each opponent you may not have many players to choose from anyway. But yeah you can pick 1d opponent over 7d if you know their rank :))
You can refuse games in Pandanet Cup without any penalty. That is in the preliminary not in later stages. Not sure why anyone would play a self paired tournament if they have to accept any and all game requests.
I read that the rules is that you must play the games from your home. I doubt this has anything to do with the requirements for participation. Which is that you are a national or resident of IGF member or region. I think they are trying to make it harder to cheat by having more than one person play games with the same account. There is a similar requirement for the Pandanet Cup but I think you can get an exemption there.
Some players are probably motivated to find weaker players. The right spirit is to not worry much about who you are playing :) and because you can only play one game with each opponent you may not have many players to choose from anyway. But yeah you can pick 1d opponent over 7d if you know their rank :))
You can refuse games in Pandanet Cup without any penalty. That is in the preliminary not in later stages. Not sure why anyone would play a self paired tournament if they have to accept any and all game requests.
I read that the rules is that you must play the games from your home. I doubt this has anything to do with the requirements for participation. Which is that you are a national or resident of IGF member or region. I think they are trying to make it harder to cheat by having more than one person play games with the same account. There is a similar requirement for the Pandanet Cup but I think you can get an exemption there.
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Why don't you just run a virtual machine? I mean that seriously, it seems entirely in line with the way you handle your computing.RobertJasiek wrote:Since GoPanda is prescribed for Windows PCs, where can I find information on its PC security?
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
hyperpape wrote:Why don't you just run a virtual machine? I mean that seriously, it seems entirely in line with the way you handle your computing.RobertJasiek wrote:Since GoPanda is prescribed for Windows PCs, where can I find information on its PC security?
the new Pandanet client is Java, so it'll run on any OS (that supports Java)
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
hyperpape wrote:Why don't you just run a virtual machine?
1) My RAM is limited, so VM is no fun.
2) Instead of VM, I use a different (and more restrictive) sort of sandbox mechanism.
3) The usual PC precautions and (2) do not answer the question about the security of the software itself and of JRE.
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Reminder: The registration for the SportAccord Online Tournament is now open. See:
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
In addition to a grand prize of a fully-paid trip to Beijing, there are other prizes for each geographical region, including iPad's whose winners will be randomly drawn from all people who participate and finish the first round, whether or not they advance to the second round.
This tournament is sponsored by SportAccord, Pandanet, and the International Go Federation.
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
In addition to a grand prize of a fully-paid trip to Beijing, there are other prizes for each geographical region, including iPad's whose winners will be randomly drawn from all people who participate and finish the first round, whether or not they advance to the second round.
This tournament is sponsored by SportAccord, Pandanet, and the International Go Federation.
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
The registration for the SportAccord Online Tournament is entering the last two days. See:
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
Don't miss it! The prizes are generous and the competition should be very interesting. You can also follow the progress of the tournament on the Pandanet website.
http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet/115/
Don't miss it! The prizes are generous and the competition should be very interesting. You can also follow the progress of the tournament on the Pandanet website.
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Professor Hsiang:
I have been trying to get into the tournament room SAWMG-AM since the preliminary started. Everytime I tried to get this message: Error. You can not join this room.
I have not been able to play because I can not get into this room. I am using GoPanda client.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
farmer
I have been trying to get into the tournament room SAWMG-AM since the preliminary started. Everytime I tried to get this message: Error. You can not join this room.
I have not been able to play because I can not get into this room. I am using GoPanda client.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
farmer
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
I am having the same problem.
Anyone have a solution for this?
Anyone have a solution for this?
farmer wrote:Professor Hsiang:
I have been trying to get into the tournament room SAWMG-AM since the preliminary started. Everytime I tried to get this message: Error. You can not join this room.
I have not been able to play because I can not get into this room. I am using GoPanda client.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
farmer
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
Tried asking IGS ?
rpchuang wrote:I am having the same problem.
Anyone have a solution for this?farmer wrote:Professor Hsiang:
I have been trying to get into the tournament room SAWMG-AM since the preliminary started. Everytime I tried to get this message: Error. You can not join this room.
I have not been able to play because I can not get into this room. I am using GoPanda client.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
farmer
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Re: The 2nd SportAccord World Mind Games Online Tournament
farmer wrote:Professor Hsiang:
I have been trying to get into the tournament room SAWMG-AM since the preliminary started. Everytime I tried to get this message: Error. You can not join this room.
I have not been able to play because I can not get into this room. I am using GoPanda client.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
farmer
I have the same problem... I have asked Pandanet for help and will pass on the information as soon as I get it. My guess is that you have to use GoPanda-2 client. On the Pandanet "results" page, you will see that the Asian and European players do not seem to have any problems and they mostly use GoPanda-2