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Q4
i think i am winning at least 10 pts
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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Aiming at this I guess:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Further thoughts:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 9 . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 8 . 0 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:w40: tesuji?
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40 does not look like tesuji to me, (MW isn't trying to make eyes locally and it doesn't take a liberty). The problem is 41 at S5. Perhaps white should have just played 132 at Q4.

Unless of course 140...R2 S5 T4 is applicable there (R2 S2 S5 S3 S1 lousy approach ko?)
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Q2 atari
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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 9 . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 8 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


[b]EDIT: Sorry, magicwand, I thought you were playing the other side. Brain fart :P

Try this one:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Actually, maybe this was easier:

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[go]$$Bcm131 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . 6 O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O 4 5 9 . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X 3 1 O 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . 2 8 0 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: black:1 white:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . 2 . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O 1 4 |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X X 3 . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Rather a lot at stake here ...
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R2 push. If hanne then cut atari
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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: :b2: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Extending is fine :)

I'm assuming he's going to push again - I think he has to, then I'm going to peep for liberties and see if I can tenuki

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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: :b2: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . 4 . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X 3 X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O W . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'd love to do this if I don't die in the corner ...
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S2 push
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners: :b2: :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Man this is miserable. Q4 really would have been so much better.

Two big blunders, I'm pretty definitely behind now.
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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X C 3 O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X C 3 O 4 . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
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$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . . . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X 5 X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . 6 . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X 5 X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #178 - magicwand vs topazg

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[go]$$Bcm141 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . X . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X O X O X . X . 7 . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O X . X . O . X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . X . X X O X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O O . . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X O . . . . . O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O X . . X X X X X O O . O . |
$$ | . . O O O X . X . . . . O O X . O X . |
$$ | . . X X X . X . . . . . . X X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X O . O . , . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O O O O X . X . X X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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