Life in 19x19 Title Tournament

[schultz]

Are we going to get somebody to do a verbal countdown for our byo-yomi periods (if we have them)?

That would be awesome!

Never played Canadian, but this would be as good a time as any to give it a shot. I'm fine with whatever one the majority votes for, though.

[tj86430]

Do all matches have to use the same setting? What about letting players choose between std and Canadian, if they can not agree, then standard is used?

[quantumf]

Start date estimates...

Probably Groups 1 and 2 -> First half of June.
Group 3 -> second half
Group 4 -> First half of July
Group 5 -> Second half
Group 6 -> First half of August

Thanks for the reply. Since I assume the 2nd group=group 5, I'm going to have to withdraw Sorry about that, I hope you can find a replacement.

[tj86430]

I'm going to have to withdraw Sorry about that, I hope you can find a replacement.

I guess now both topazg and fwiffo can participate. I hope we get no more cancellations, otherwise we will never get this started.

[SoDesuNe]

Byo-Yomi and I'm still in. (Going to have troubles playing in second half of July, but well, first I need to come that far =D)

[mic]

Byo-yomi: 5 x 0:40
Canadian: 10 stones in 5 minutes

Please can you state which you prefer (if either), and how strongly you dislike one of them if that's the case.

I prefer Canadian, but have no problems with byo-yomi.

- Mic

[Li Kao]

I think simply using more byo-yomi periods achieves the advantages(you can take your time in a complicated situation) of Canadian without its disadvantages(more complicated time-management).

[topazg]

I think simply using more byo-yomi periods achieves the advantages(you can take your time in a complicated situation) of Canadian without its disadvantages(more complicated time-management).

I know I'm going to end up sounding like a Canadian fanboy (and I'm not, honestly! I'm happy enough with Byo-yomi), but I'm not convinced about this at all.

Let's say there's a complicated position on the board, and I play some quick forced moves out on one side to use up 6 moves, and then 3:15 concentrating on this complicated move. That should leave me 1:30 for 3 moves. However, if this was byo-yomi, I'd instantly be down 3 of my periods and down to 2 remaining lives. I find that situation much more stressful than managing my moves in an overall period of time.

[Li Kao]

I was thinking about having 10-15 byo-yomi periods, not just 5.
Personally I prefer a time system where the first 30 seconds of each move are free and then it pulls from your thinking-time which is several minutes.
But since KGS doesn't support a good overtime system we need to use byo-yomi or canadian

[topazg]

Personally I prefer a time system where the first 30 seconds of each move are free and then it pulls from your thinking-time which is several minutes.

Actually, yeah, this sounds like an excellent idea - I'd happily go with this as an option over both. I'd also be fairly happy with Fischer timing too, even if it was like 2 mins +15 secs per move overtime at the end of a fixed basic time. Both to me feel better than byo-yomi and Canadian, but as you say, we have to work with what we've got

[hoohoo]

I dislike canadian since it limits the pressure of being in overtime.

[topazg]

I'm calling 7-6 in favour of Canadian so far ... further feelings ?

And in response to tj86430, we'll use this to decide the standard, but if players prefer the alternative overtime they can agree it between themselves for any given match. Default will be the vote winner though.

[Marcus]

I vote for Canadian.

Just a minor preference, I can play either way.

[karaklis]

But since KGS doesn't support a good overtime system we need to use byo-yomi or canadian

Yes, Fischer timing would be much better than any other option.

[Aphelion]

Eh, is it too late to join in on this? I just noticed this thread and I rarely visit the announcements section..