149. Uberdude vs Magicwand

speedchase · Post by **speedchase** » Tue May 15, 2012 2:54 pm

tundra wrote:
speedchase wrote:
no

In that case, my browser is not working properly. The last move I can see is move 30, played by White, i.e., by Magicwand. What have I missed?

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue May 15, 2012 3:54 pm

for obs:

this variation is good for white..(according to professionals)
black can not stablize the group easily and will be attacked.
that is way professionals choose 3-3 invasion.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm21 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 3 . O . 2 . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O O O X . O , X . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . O X X . X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but..i would choose this shape of black than giving white more influence.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Tue May 15, 2012 5:56 pm

Seems like it would be cool to make a real-time malkovich component for this site. Slow games are cool, but fast ones are also fun for entertainment value.

Loons · Post by **Loons** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 pm

A server with live malkoviching would be awesome, wouldn't it just?

@Magicwand

daal · Post by **daal** » Wed May 16, 2012 12:53 am

Kirby wrote:Seems like it would be cool to make a real-time malkovich component for this site. Slow games are cool, but fast ones are also fun for entertainment value.

This has already been implemented on Kaya.gs

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:37 pm

Loons wrote:A server with live malkoviching would be awesome, wouldn't it just?

@Magicwand
Starting here, something like this should be played:
$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . 2 1 . . 5 . . . . X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X , 3 . . . . , . . X X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . | $$ | . . . 2 1 . . 5 . . . . X O X X O O . | $$ | . . X , 3 . . . . , . . X X O O X . . | $$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

With this being a mistake by black:
$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . 2 . . . . . X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X , . . 3 4 . , . . X X O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . X . . | $$ | . . . . 1 . 2 . . . . . X O X X O O . | $$ | . . X , . . 3 4 . , . . X X O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Is the game really a lot different?

Tooveli · Post by **Tooveli** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:58 am

Update:
Uberdude hasn't left his goban for nearly 4 months now. Every time a friend, doctor, carer or fan tries to move him or give him food he says:
"I've nearly got it now. Just need to read a few more things and replay a few more pro games."
He's been saying that since the beginning of August.

Food and water ran out in July.
He appears to be sustaining himself through the essence of go itself.

The crumpled scraps of paper that surround him suggest that he's narrowed the search down to somewhere in the top left corner of the goban ... probably.

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:40 am

Tooveli, if you could, please, enlighten us a bit more: is Uberdude waiting to finish his game against Dinerchtein before resuming this one? If that's the case, the wait shouldn't last much longer because (with apologies to Uberdude) he seems to be getting torn apart out there, somewhat.

http://www.online-go.com/games/board.php?boardID=348067

jts · Post by **jts** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:55 am

Interesting you think it's that one-sided. Breakfast has made more groups, it's true....

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:05 pm

I'm nowhere near Uberdude's strength, so I could be wrong, but the way I see it, Uberdude is already behind on points (not even counting the komi) and his bottom left group may soon have to run for it's life (and there aren't many places to run to). To me, the game seemed pretty even until White's invasion in the bottom right with O3 (move 52). Perhaps Uberdude did not see or adequately appreciate the followup of White R3--or perhaps he made a mistake later on. In any case, the way it turned out, Dinerchtein not only reduced Black's moyo in the lower right by half, but also secured territory on the bottom for himself, and even kept sente to invade the top. This simply cannot possibly be the outcome Uberdude had in mind when White played O3.

Be as it may, I really hope the players review the game afterward and post comments.

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:39 pm

I don't understand what you sentence below the line is supposed to express. Could you elaborate a bit while we are waiting for Uberdude's move?

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:48 pm

LOL, thanks for the question.

However, You should have asked it in the thread uranther vs. The Intrepid. It would have been more appropriate there.

The sentence below the line is just a signature, of sorts (attached to all of my posts). It seeks to express that, philosophically speaking, one could argue that I never actually lost a game. If one were to prove the contrary, one would first have to show that I exist, that my games have happened, and that the remainder of reality is actually "real." In other words, I'm just throwing philosophical nonsense at the issue of my having lost games in the past ... if I ever did.

jts · Post by **jts** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:55 pm

A better line of argument would be that if you lost a game, we would have to say "the statement 'intrepid won all of his games' is false", but in order to believe that we would have to know what it would be like for you to win all your games; after all, how can we deny the truth of something we dont understand? But for you to win all your games would be the greatest thing ever, and if we haven't actually witnessed you winning all your games, our feeble attempts to conceive of such glory are in vain. So to deny that you have won all your games is mere foolishness.

(I can use a similar argument to prove that überdude has already moved.)

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:15 pm

I am sure Überdude already moved. But then he travelled back from the future to cancel his move. To calculate better probably. You know, he has plenty of time to manage that.
BTW I don't understand anything of the two previous posts and I doubt I want to.

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