How to win a lost game on KGS ( Requirement: No moral )

[speedchase]

The problem is you still haven't answered the question. The question is if both players are in the scoring phase and the one who is loosing refuses to click done or leave, what happens?

[AmyTS]

You get an admin, who can threaten a ban if the naughty player doesn't finish the game properly.

[Mef]

The problem is you still haven't answered the question. The question is if both players are in the scoring phase and the one who is loosing refuses to click done or leave, what happens?

If there is any scoring abuse, tell an admin immediately, and we frown on any form of score-abusing or any refusal to finish the game. KGS admin hat off.

If the game is finished (i.e. in the scoring phase), but the player is refusing to click done, they may be kicked to have them marked as an escaper

[Nyanjilla]

Seems the punishment does not fit the crime. Why declare someone an escaper who refuses to leave? Wouldn't it make more sense just to push the "done" button for them and declare them the loser?

Only players can click on Done.

Refusing to finish a game is equivalent to trying to escape it, only it wastes more time (of everyone involved).

This doesn't make sense to me. If an admin can declare the game adjourned although the players are both still there, why can't he declare it over? Seems just to be a matter of choice. If the problem is technical, then surely that can't be a huge hurdle. It would waste far less time and cause less dissatisfaction if such games could be forcibly ended - or are you assuming a good reason for not clicking "done?"

No assumptions.... it is not possible for an admin to somehow take over control of another person's account, to click the Done button. Or otherwise force the Done button to get clicked in any way other than the player clicking it hirself.

And if you think about it a bit, would you really want that to be possible?

[speedchase]

And if you think about it a bit, would you really want that to be possible?

I don't see how this happening. Could possibly be less damaging than being banned from the server. If we are worried about abusive admins, there are so many things that we should be worried about first.

[topazg]

Unless I've misinterpreted something, what you're saying is "if you've lost a game and don't want to be marked as an escaper, make sure you leave before you've finished filling in the dame"?

And if you think about it a bit, would you really want that to be possible?

Yes, it has happened a few times on OGS with quite some success and the satisfaction of the player being held up. AFAIK it's never been a power that's been abused.

[Uberdude]

Yes, it has happened a few times on OGS with quite some success and the satisfaction of the player being held up. AFAIK it's never been a power that's been abused.

Well, the OGS admins are nicer than those on KGS

[ProtoJazz]

I had a similar thing happen tonight, I had a weak group the opponent could capture, but he didn't see it and passed, I then passed as well figuring the game was over. It goes to counting, and suddenly he plays another move. I didn't think it would also undo my pass as well. I still won in the end, but now I know to always defend even if they pass

[speedchase]

I don't really see how this is related. Of course you have to be able to do this