#183 - Magicwand vs Lovelove

lovelove · Post by **lovelove** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:51 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm231 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X 9 X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O . X . X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:11 pm

J4 atari

lovelove · Post by **lovelove** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:15 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X 1 X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:39 pm

Magicwand almost pulled it off. If only he could save both of the following groups, the game would actually be fairly close. In fact, if Magicwand could also live in the lower right corner, he'd win by ~20 points, or something like that. Won't happen, though. :/

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . W | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X W W W X . W | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X W X X X W | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X W W X X W . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X W W W W W | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X W . | $$ | . . . X X X X X W X . O X O O X W . . | $$ | . . X . . X W W W X X X X O . X W . . | $$ | . X X . X W W X X X . X O O X . X W . | $$ | . O X X X W X . X X X X X O O . X W . | $$ | . O X . W W W X X W X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X W W W W W . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X W . W . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X W W W W X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . W X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

jts · Post by **jts** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:45 pm

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:50 pm

jts · Post by **jts** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:12 am

The Intrepid wrote:
I'm not "Logan" but whatever.

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:26 am

logan · Post by **logan** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:51 am

Thank-you The Intrepid, I was also confused by jts's post.

There's no ko anymore jts:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X 1 X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O 2 O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

After White saves the bottom group then Black kills the right group (because White ignored the marked ko threat earlier):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 8 7 . 9 . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O 4 2 | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O 5 3 | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O 6 | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X Y . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . Q Q X Q . | $$ | . X X O . . . . 1 . . . . X . . Q . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If White tries to start a capturing race with :w7:

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, Black will win.

And if White somehow saves the lower-right group, she will still be behind on points.

MW seemed to be in a dark place for much of this later part of the game, so I'm not sure how much you should read into his plan to gain something 'game-winning' from harassing the center group.

It happens often. MW is in a losing position, he stops speaking much and plays many moves. Then with his feeling and intuition he sees the flicker of a candle at the end of a long-hall, gets excited and posts his uplifted thoughts of a possible outcome. Some of this and some of that happens, he gains a small outcome, and... well this leads us to where we are now.

lovelove, on the other hard, was just wanting to finish up the game -- so he hasn't been playing to 'not let MW get away with anything' or 'find the perfect move.' Because of his large lead he was mostly indifferent to the outcome of whether White's center group lived or not. Of course he's still being wisely careful...

A slight victory to MW, an indifference to lovelove. Ah, life.

No intention of hurt or offense to the players

(where's the hug smiley?)

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:40 am

T11

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . 2 | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X 1 X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

lovelove · Post by **lovelove** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:48 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm241 white : 14 black : 8 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X X | $$ | . . X . . O . . . . X O O X X X X . O | $$ | . . O O O X O . X X O O X O O O X . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O O X O X X O X X X O | $$ | . . X O O X O X O . X O X O O X X O . | $$ | . O O X X X O X X O O O X X O O O O O | $$ | . . . X O O O O X X X O X O X X X O . | $$ | . . . X X X X X O X . O X O O X O . O | $$ | . . X . . X O O O X X X X O . X O . . | $$ | . X X . X O O X X X . X O O X . X O . | $$ | . O X X X O X . X X X X X O O . X O . | $$ | . O X . O O O X X O X X O . O O X X . | $$ | . . O X X O O O O O . O X O X X . X . | $$ | . . O . X X X O . O . O X O . O X . . | $$ | . O . O X O O O O X X X X X X X . X . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . O X O . . O O X O . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . 3 . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand, why are you still playing? Is there something I don't see?

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:52 am

i resign
thank you.

lovelove · Post by **lovelove** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:56 am

Thank you

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:00 am

Sorry about bad game everyone..
I made few easy mistake and had to play catchup.
I am wondering..if i played S7 first and secure the life in sente then..i might have had chance to comeback. probably not...but it would have been closer..

I MISREAD LADDER!!!!!!

lovelove · Post by **lovelove** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:02 am

Full game SGF

Life In 19x19

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