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by skydyr Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:44 pm
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by topazg Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:52 am
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by skydyr Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:15 am
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by Marcus Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:41 am
Enjoying the game so far! Keep it up guys!
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I always find it interesting how both players will be following the same plan and both feel ok. Is this typical? I always feel (not necessarily correctly) like one side is getting a better deal.
In this case, I like the deal that topazg is getting here. The shimari is facing an increasingly strong white group. It looks like skydyr will have to effectively use the wall he's just created ... something I'm terrible at doing, so I can't see what kind of plan he could or should make here.
I guess I am really weak in the opening, so take my comments with a grain of salt.
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by EdLee Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:55 am
Marcus,
Marcus wrote: I always find it interesting how both players will be following the same plan and both feel ok. Is this typical?
A few possibilities:
- both sides are correct (the situation is equal; for example, local joseki, or globally early in the opening);
- one side is 100% correct (the situation is a disaster for one side; so the other person must be completely wrong);
- the situation is slightly better for one side, but it's still too early or too close to call, so both sides are still correct;
- the situation is super messy and unclear (so maybe both sides are correct or wrong in thinking they're doing OK, depending on how you look at it);
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by topazg Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:44 pm
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by skydyr Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:55 pm
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by skydyr Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:55 pm
Incidentally, what is komi for this game? 6.5?
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by topazg Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:52 pm
Yeah, that was the plan I thought - we nigiri'd after all
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by skydyr Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:13 pm
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We agreed on komi, but not a specific amount, so I just wanted to double check. In the interest of full disclosure, I accidentally opened your hide tag for the last post while trying to copy the diagram.
So here's my thinking:
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I want to sacrifice the original approach stone to stabilize both my groups while ideally leaving aji in the bottom left corner and securing the bottom right. The key idea is to approach at 5, which also keeps white from breaking the ladder at the marked point while destabilizing the black group.
My original thought was to come out with a one space jump, but I think that hurts the stone on the left, and the catenaccio joseki is not played much for a reason. I also thought about a keima to E5, but I think black needs the side stone to be on the 4th line for these to coordinate well.
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by topazg Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:08 am
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by skydyr Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:37 am
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by topazg Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:17 am
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by skydyr Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:27 am
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by topazg Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:40 am
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