#177 The Intrepid vs. uranther

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:03 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm32 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

uranther cannot avoid massive losses. Even with optimal play, he will be 40 or more points behind after the situation on top settles. If I were playing Black, I would do the following:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O 2 X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . 1 . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . . . . 3 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . X . X 4 . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . 5 X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O O X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X 4 X 3 5 X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . 2 1 . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . X . X O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . X X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

After this, I would make a last ditch effort to save the Black group on the bottom. If unsuccessful, I would then say "makemashita."

Edit:

Actually, after the following diagram, White still threatens to play "a" and then "b," so Black does not even get sente ... Though spot for Black.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm6 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O O X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X 4 X 3 5 X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O b . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . 2 1 a X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . X . X O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . X X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dragon Pie · Post by **Dragon Pie** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:53 pm

I assume that you went to the Mercury Cafe to play go in Denver?

I can say that my favorite place to play go is Pablo's Coffee on 6th Avenue and Washington St. There are a several people who regularly play there most of whom are around 1kyu or 1dan and catercorner is a Korean/Japanese restaurant with a friend of mine who would often be up for a game.

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:36 pm

Awesome, thanks for the info! I'm not sure where uranther plays, but I now have one more place to got to when I visit Denver.

uranther · Post by **uranther** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:44 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm32 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 3 X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dragon Pie: Yep. Pablo's Coffee sounds cool - I will check it out sometime.

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:54 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm34 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 1 X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

uranther · Post by **uranther** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:58 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm34 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O 3 . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 1 X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Maybe I shouldn't cut, since he doesn't have to respond, and I have bad aji:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm34 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X 2 X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 1 O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So I will protect that point and go for eye shape. Probably should've played L13 before J12...

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O 2 . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O 1 . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

uranther · Post by **uranther** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:49 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm36 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O 2 3 X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O 1 . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:46 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm38 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O 1 X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . 2 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black could have saved one-half of his group this way:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O 4 X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X 9 3 8 0 X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O 5 X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . 6 7 1 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O 2 . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Half of the group dies but at least Black gets sente.

White has to respond to :b1:

else this happens:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc a and b are miai for Black $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . 1 O 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X b 3 O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O 5 . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . a O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Likewise, White has to respond to :b3:

or else Black forms an eye there:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O 5 X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . 3 . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now that White got to play P13, the entire Black group perishes.

uranther · Post by **uranther** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:00 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm38 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O 1 X 3 X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . 2 O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 My first instinct is to block here, but then... $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . 2 4 . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X X 3 X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . 1 O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So instead of 1, 2, 3, I'll just play 3

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:04 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm40 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O 2 X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X X 1 X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . O . O . X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black threatened to play this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O 2 . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O 3 X 1 O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . a . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X X X X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . |[/go]

If White were to play :w2:

as in the diagram (White should play at "a," instead, which kills half the group), Black group gets a second eye and lives.

Instead of :w41:

. I could have also played the following, but that gives Black a huge ko threat (at "b" or "c"):

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . X . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X O O b X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . c 1 . X O . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O O X X X X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . X . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X X X . . . X . . |[/go]

Of course, there are no ko fights anywhere in sight, so giving Black an additional ko threat would not matter. Still, why do it when it is not necessary?

uranther · Post by **uranther** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:47 am

I resign. This upper right group is dead. It can only make one eye and a false eye... Good game Intrepid!

The Intrepid · Post by **The Intrepid** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:12 pm

Thank you for the game. I'll post an sgf file with the game in a week or so. Also, I'll ask a 5 dan friend to offer comments on the moves.

The biggest mistake from me was definitely move :wc:

. I thought I found a clever way to kill the Black group because it let me play :w4:

(in the following sequence) at J3 rather than at "a" while also granting me all the other benefits.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . O . X O O . O . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X X X O . O X . . . X . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X O X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X O . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 O O . X O . X . | $$ | . . . X . . . W a O 1 X X X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . 4 3 . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

As you'll see in one of the latter comments, however, you had a way of saving your group after :wc:

.

Otherwise, I am generally satisfied with my play. Then again, I have not yet read other people's comments, so that feeling may yet change.

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