#188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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How do I show that I captured two stones ?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$cm51 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$cm51 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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How do I show that I captured two stones ?

Does anyone know how to show that in the diagram ?

Ed maybe ?

Thanks,
Otenki
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$cm51 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this was to be expected :-)
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$cm51 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 . 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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@otenki

Like this, for example (view diagram code by clicking below the diagram):
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[go]$$cm51 Prisoners: b=2, w=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 . 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
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Post by EdLee »

otenki, another version which I prefer:
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[go]$$m51 Captured stones: :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 . 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$m51 Captured stones: :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 5 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


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Sente, because otherwise i could kill the two stones which could lead to the other stones 5 stones to be captured.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$m51 Captured stones: :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 5 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . 6 O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$m51 Captured stones: :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 5 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . 6 O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Observers:
I think I'm winning so just taking solid points.
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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I think that's game. White needs a big mistake from black now.
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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Okay, I vote for this. Fighting! :rambo:
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$cm51 Captured stones: White 0, Black 2
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O . . . O . X . . . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 5 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . 6 O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Black enclosing the top right corner is like a death sentence. I invade the top left, because any thickness black gets would be of no use to him anyway. If I live, I can count again and see what measures are necessary. I am contemplating L9 in sente against the cut of N7, after which my center group gains enough stability that I can try some funky stuff on the right side. Suffice to say that there will be some hopesuji's involved...
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This kills (not the only move to kill):
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . , X O . . . O . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #188 Otenki vs DeFlow

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I like this:

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[go]$$cm51 Captured stones: White 0, Black 2
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 . , X O . . . O . X . . . X 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 4 5 3 X X X X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . 6 O O X O O O X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O O . . . . X . . . |
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edit: ninja'd by edlee. If we agree, it must be right!!
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