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Alguien
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by Alguien Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:13 am
What would be your next move and why?
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by EdLee Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:22 am
Alguien,
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by Uberdude Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:26 am
Pick up skull fragments from the floor.
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by skydyr Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:54 am
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My first feeling is here, because the double approach to the 4-4 stone in the top right or bottom right would be more severe than a joseki stemming from the left side, and the 3 space pincer balances between both corners well while supporting them. It's also loose enough that it shouldn't be too strongly attacked in the inevitable whole board fight.
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by Koroviev Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:04 am
Duh.
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by logan Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:57 am
I would be fine with many different moves after this, because there are many playable moves.
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by Bill Spight Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:02 am
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The Adkins Principle:At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
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by skydyr Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:57 am
Bill, why low instead of high? I liked high because I thought the game would develop into large scale fighting.
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by Bill Spight Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:11 pm
skydyr wrote: Bill, why low instead of high? I liked high because I thought the game would develop into large scale fighting.
Try high with a double kakari. It is too easy for White to aim underneath the pincer to make sabaki, IMO.
The Adkins Principle:At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
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by cyclops Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:50 pm
skydyr wrote: Bill, why low instead of high? I liked high because I thought the game would develop into large scale fighting.
If you are interested in such questions I recommend "501 opening problems" by Bozulich and van Zeijst.
problem 62:
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solution:
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But OC asking Bill is as well
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by Phelan Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:42 pm
Alguien wrote: What would be your next move and why?
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I think I would
play on the lower left. Seems the most urgent corner to me.
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by Phelan Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:46 pm
Of course, reading through the thread now,it seems that my response is not the best overall, because it doesn't answer the general board situation.
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by skydyr Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:06 am
Phelan wrote: Of course, reading through the thread now,it seems that my response is not the best overall, because it doesn't answer the general board situation.
The thing about the left side is that locally, if white gets another move there, they just turn into standard 5-3 or 5-4 joseki, where black can expect to get more than in a tenuki joseki.
combines extension and pincer. It is harder to develop from the 3-4 points, and this play utilizes both 4-4 stones.
at a would be lukewarm because w could settle his stones by sliding to b.
