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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:19 am
I'm hoping to get an opinion on how I played in this match against my friend MjMjMjMj on the KGS go servers. MjMjMjMj played black in this game and I played white with a 0.5 komi. I ended up winning the match, but there were several moves that were questionable and I think if my friend were a stronger player, he would have immediately capitalized on those mistakes.
Some things I think I did well in this match:
*I had a good fight in the upper left and lower right corner.
Some things I think I did badly:
*I was unable to save any of my stones in the upper right hand corner
Anyway, let me know what you guys think. I appreciate the feedback.
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by lemmata Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:56 am
Here's one small thing: White 1 is almost a net and gives you a nice squeeze if black tries to escape with 2 (other moves fail). All of white's stones are doing something, but black's 8-stone dumpling is doing almost nothing. From that standpoint, this should give white quite an advantage so black will probably play away rather than play 2.
Diagram:
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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:09 am
lemmata wrote: Here's one small thing: White 1 is almost a net and gives you a nice squeeze if black tries to escape with 2 (other moves fail). All of white's stones are doing something, but black's 8-stone dumpling is doing almost nothing. From that standpoint, this should give white quite an advantage so black will probably play away rather than play 2.
Diagram:
True. I'd be somewhat afraid of the cutting points next to 3 and 9. Also. I doubt my friend would have responded with 2. I think that it is much more likely that he would extend and then if I responded either play a one space jump or tenuki to build up the left side of the board. I do like that you're variation vastly decreases blacks potential for a wall though.
Here's how I imagine gameplay would go if White played at 1
Diagram:
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Which leaves me with 3 very weak groups split by blacks wall.
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by EdLee Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:16 am
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by lemmata Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:20 am
You forgot a very important stone that was on the board. Your diagram doesn't work if the missing stone is restored.
tsuhre wrote: True. I'd be somewhat afraid of the cutting points next to 3 and 9. Also. I doubt my friend would have responded with 2. I think that it is much more likely that he would extend and then if I responded either play a one space jump or tenuki to build up the left side of the board. I do like that you're variation vastly decreases blacks potential for a wall though.
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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:21 am
Thanks for the variations. I'm glad that you did variations for both players. I forgot to distinguish it in my original post (edited now) but I played as white for this game.
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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:22 am
lemmata wrote: You forgot a very important stone that was on the board. Your diagram doesn't work if the missing stone is restored.
tsuhre wrote: True. I'd be somewhat afraid of the cutting points next to 3 and 9. Also. I doubt my friend would have responded with 2. I think that it is much more likely that he would extend and then if I responded either play a one space jump or tenuki to build up the left side of the board. I do like that you're variation vastly decreases blacks potential for a wall though.
Which stone did I miss?
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by EdLee Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:23 am
tsuhre wrote: ...but I played as white for this game.
Yes, I knew you played White. In the variations you can see how B could've replied better to foil some of your moves.
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by EdLee Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:24 am
lemmata,
lemmata wrote: $$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W Aren't you missing the important
stone in your diagram?
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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:25 am
EdLee wrote: tsuhre wrote: ...but I played as white for this game.
Yes, I knew you played White. In the variations you can see how B could've replied better to foil some of your moves.
Was just hoping to clarify for others
. The variations are interesting. It would have been a much different game if black had played some of those moves.
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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:27 am
EdLee wrote: lemmata,
lemmata wrote: $$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W Aren't you missing the important
stone in your diagram?
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Haha, Yes, you're right. Sorry, I don't have the game memorized yet and I thought I had played that move later.
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by lemmata Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:28 am
tsuhre wrote: Which stone did I miss?
N4 has a white stone in your game record. You don't see it in my diagram because it is filled by black 8 after black captures it. That N4 stone takes away one of black's precious liberties.
Also, when black's liberty situation is this bad, white should not be afraid of the cuts at 3,9. It is good to be severe at times when you're in a position of strength.
EDIT: I see that Ed found the missing move, although he seems to think that I missed it, too.
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by EdLee Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:30 am
tsuhre wrote: $$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W Two things:
(1) missing important W stone at (a);
(2)
and
very bad shape in your variation -- broken shape for W:
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by EdLee Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:34 am
lemmata wrote: $$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W Oh, yes:
$$W :b8: at :wc:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W :b8: at :wc:
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by tsuhre Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:35 am
EdLee wrote: tsuhre wrote: $$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W Two things:
(1) missing important W stone at (a);
(2)
and
very bad shape in your variation -- broken shape for W:
$$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$W
Agreed. I think thats why I was confused. If the stone had not been there at (a) I would never have played a move like 1
I find more and more that my battles on the board reflect my battles off of it.
stone in your diagram?
. The variations are interesting. It would have been a much different game if black had played some of those moves.
and 
very bad shape in your variation -- broken shape for W: