44. Violence (?d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:34 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:37 pm

This is the most exciting game I've watched since I saw Alakazam play the Captain. My favorite current game (that I'm not in) is still Joaz versus Sol, but this is certainly crazy-exciting.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:39 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:46 pm

some analysis..point "a" is very very big. i wish i can get smooth flow to play that move.. but i dont see them now.
that move will put the dragon into a danger and gives me points in mutual sente which means X4. i dont wanna miss such point.
1) attacking that lonely stone and build influence.
2) goto "a" and attack...
that is my gameplan.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . a . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:49 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , W O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:51 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X B X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:58 pm

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:02 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . W X . . . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:05 pm

@Violence:

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:06 pm

if it was a teaching game i wouldnt mind playing drunk..
since it is a pride game i will sleep on it if you dont mind..

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:11 pm

I'll take that as a compliment. Sleep well.

@topazg:

If I approach the top right, I think he will iron pillar the weak stone, making him much stronger than I want him in this area. The iron pillar fixes the ladder because he has a sente peep that makes the loose ladder work. A double approach on the top right isn't very severe.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . 6 . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 2 X 3 7 . . O . . X . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . 5 4 X . 8 9 O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Since we're taking a break, any other questions are welcome. I'll try to explain my thought process as best as I can.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:16 pm

Violence wrote:Since we're taking a break, any other questions are welcome. I'll try to explain my thought process as best as I can.

I'll ask the question I ask most often: What is your plan? What response do you expect and what are you aiming for? What do you expect the board will look like 5-10 moves from now? Are you afraid of anything?

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:19 pm

Terr,

SpongeBob · Post by **SpongeBob** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:36 pm

Question for Violence:

One question regarding a previous move of yours:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I would never get the idea to play this myself - and I do not understand it.

What I suspect is that if Black R7 you will probably answer like this and then Black Q8 would not be sente:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . O 2 . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . 1 3 4 | $$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . | $$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Is that a reason for your move? As White I would just have played R7 - what is the advantage of your move? Thanks!

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:39 pm

Spongebob:

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