lovelove wrote:('you' is not you)You will not know what is right until you get stronger from tsumegos and joseki memorization and lots of game experience. I just can say, that invasion is nonsense, because I have experience of killing that kind of invasions, my reading tells that will bring a horrible result, and I haven't seen an invasion like that in my memorized pro games or diagrams from various books. How could I explain this? Or is this already an explanation?
I think he has accepted that this one move is failing but now would like to know what I asked myself, and can be summed up by "alright but where should I play instead"? xed_over says that not only is this one invading move a mistake, but trying to invade at all is a mistake.
You should display your rank. I'm not sure I should listen to you since I don't know what your rank is.
Regardless of his rank he said something interesting. He told you to count. You invaded because you thought you were behind and it also looks this way to me at first glance, but if you are in fact ahead, it completely changes the perpective, doesn't it?
So I counted. I'm only a low level DDK, I didn't do anything fancy, I just counted the points inside the roughly defined black and white frameworks, assuming a very modest reduction of white's upper framework (I assumed safe territory up to line 13, which I think is pretty generous) and ignoring the empty territory in the center.
The result was roughly 70 points for each side.
So assuming you're not behind, there's no urgent need to invade. Then you can ask yourself: what would be your next move? If I was black my first impulse would be extend the framework towards the center, I think that would be quite enough to get in white's way. And then there is this small white group on the lower left side. Took me quite a while to notice it... In your game, those stones connected with the bigger white group at the top, but it looks quite easy to prevent that. The move at B10 looks like a headache for white... I mean, maybe a 4d can make those stones live but I would be at a loss. At the very least, you can strengthen your black wall on the outside while white tries to make eye shape and then does this white framework still look that menacing? It's very opened on all sides. And you can also try and connect with your corner stones while your opponent is busy not dying. If you do kill those stones, suddenly you're very much ahead.
Just food for thought. I'm only a 15k.
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