#210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sigh, I really don't know here.

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I looked at all of these but dismissed them all for shape reasons. Still, the move I chose is pushing white from behind and I am a bit worried about a cut at p13. As far as pure shape goes, 'f' seems to be OK. But it fixes white too. Should I be worried more about my own good shape than white's, who has two groups to worry for?
Regardless, even with some time to think, this wont be easy for me so I'll play a surrounding move and deal with a counter attack on my corner when it comes.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Wow, didn't expect this move at all. I'm cutting without any hesitation. I realize that I have some liberty problems but as far as I can see - nothing is in imminent danger for me.


edit:

It's about to get ugly.

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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 4 O X X X O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As I played my last move without reading, I sensed some danger if white tried to sacrifice his two stones for an attack on my corner at 'a'. I think :b6: is key. It is less secure on the very very weak cutting stones than atari at 'b', but that is not what's important right now. My 3 stones are the urgent matter.
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this??
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . X 5 4 O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 6 O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Give w ponnuki seems generous, I think b has to extend. This game has already disintegrated into bonkers fighting where I don't know what to do.
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Uberdude wrote:This game has already disintegrated into bonkers fighting where I don't know what to do.


It's either comforting or frightening that players much stronger than me are similarly lost.
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[go]$$Wcm21 Prisoners: none
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sticking with the plan.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . O . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 7 O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
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$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . O . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X 6 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . 7 O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
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$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . O . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . 9 . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm21 Prisoners: none
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I spent like 10x longer than usual at this point. Which I think makes sense - the first battle is over, it's time to develop a good position for the next battle.

I'm not sure if a .sgf format like this is easy to observe or not. I tried to reduce the variation-spam to 2-3 diagrams worth. I thought I could convert the file into some diagrams but alas.... no. I'll switch back to diagrams unless there is a preference to this:

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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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Hane from the outside, force him to play inside to make small points(albeit destroy a lot of potential).


If magicwand plays simply to destroy my potential:
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Next, I'll have to take advantage of white's thinness on the left side.
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Re: #210 Magicwand vs Emerus

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"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
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