#180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Looks like the bottom left is more complicated and worse for me than it looked at first glance. Guess I'll leave it for now and use up some aji, then see what I think about the game when the board contains fewer question marks. If things don't work out well I'll have to resign.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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Playing away looks like a big mistake to me. "a" is sente for B which can stabilize his position. "b" by W now starts a ko to captures all B's stones on the bottom.
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . a X O X b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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Comment from previous move

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X 0 1 X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . 9 2 X O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . W 6 5 X 4 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


8 at 5. 11 is marked white stone.

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X 2 1 X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 3 X O X 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 4 X 6 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O 7 O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I tried to find some way to resist, but it really seems like this is my best option now. I feel like I'm losing again, even though everything that's happened since I gained the centre has been within my expectations. (Not in terms of specific moves. Just generally.)
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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Trigger: if you play E4 I play H5

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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O 8 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I'll use forcing moves to gain a bit on the outside now, because doing so doesn't seem to interfere much with living underneath, but living underneath would make me lose these forcing moves.

a is where I'd play if I go to the bottom left right away (can make a sort of miai life because c2 both threatens to live in the corner if it's not responded to and fixes a liberty shortage for connecting back, so I think his best line of play would be letting me connect small and taking sente), but I've been looking at a lot of other moves (b and c for example).
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[go]$$Wcm80 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O 7 O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X b . |
$$ | . . . . a . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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trigger accepted.

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O 1 O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Obviously these are forcing moves so I have no choice but to play out the sequence and see what konfuzed has planned for me.

I'm now wondering what the point of Q7 was though. A probe? Time suji? It seems like if he lets me cut it off from the T9 stone (with an endgame move I'd want to play anyway), then it only serves to strengthen my position.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I just picked something instead of agonizing over it. Bottom left looks big but double gote, and could lead to him undercutting my bottom middle/bottom right area with sente if I live there. This move gives me extra security, puts just a little pressure on his stones above, and I always remember that Guo Juan said it has some absurdly high point value in a lecture I watched.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . 3 X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm an optimistic person and have decided that my increasing certainty that I've lost this game is a sign of my improving positional judgement. :tmbup:

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . d . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . 3 X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . C . O W O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X b . . . . . . . e . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X 2 f |
$$ | . . . . . . X O X a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think we're now well in to the endgame. These are the main points I considered.

a: Good points but lacks a follow up.
b: Seems like it might start a profitable fight, but would make any black move around the circled point sente, which could cause problems, especially with the marked black stone in place.
c: Whoops, didn't use c. Seems I don't know my alphabet.
d: Looks like a large shared point, but with the monkey jump already reducing black I don't think it's such a big deal.
e: Not as submissive as it feels. Worth a few points and has a sente follow up at f, but with black's monkey jump behind it I feel it's worth less than it might otherwise be.
:w92: : Stops white linking up with the marked black stone, and hopefull makes the exchange a bad one for black. I think it could also end in sente or seal off the monkey jump to make e a territory making move.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


All right, living in the bottom left just looks big to me at this point. As far as I can tell he has can either capture J2 and force me to live locally or let me connect, but there is no way for him to keep the entire thing. He'll have sente though. The safe thing to do would be taking care of the k4 aji, but I think it's somewhat manageable and I don't feel like I have the points to be conservative. Not too concerned about him killing the monkey jump stone.
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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X 5 X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think konfused is expecting this:

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[go]$$Wcm1 4 on marked stone
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X 1 B O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 3 X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I'm planning

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X 1 X O X 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I would play :w3: directly but I think black playing 1 would then make miai of killing 3 and connecting out or living inside.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he tries to cut me off, I will play C2


EDIT: Whoops, I wasn't thinking straight, all of my reading was relying on a liberty that isn't there (he's not capturing G2/G3). Oh well, nothing to do but wait for his move and then see if the situation is salvageable.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O X 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now we get to see which of us has misread. Usually it's me, but I have a good feeling this time. :rambo:
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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O X 7 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X . 8 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I could just atari him down, but I feel like it was already a tough game to win so I have to ask for more. I guess I'll try to fight this in ko. (I've wasted threats this game though, I think he has the advantage for sure)
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[go]$$Wcm90 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . X O X O C O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X 9 X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


When will I learn? It's always me that's missed something. :cry:

Edit: i only read the connection, not the ko.
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Re: #180 Splatted vs konfuzed

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[go]$$Bcm99 Prisoners: :b2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . . . X . X X O O |
$$ | . . X , . O . X . , . . . X . X O X . |
$$ | O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X X X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . O . . X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O X X . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O X O . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O X X . X . . . X X . |
$$ | . . 1 . X O X O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . X O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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