I'm actually 3k, soon 2k on kgs, i have time to study go ( around 2/3h per day) and i want a training to become 1D asap !
What is the best way for me ? I think this : study pro games ( Katao Masao for killing and Lee Changho for invasion and reduction ) after do some tsumego and study joseki/fuseki.
Hi, That's a very very typical desire amongst go players... I wish there was a one-way suits all path to get there... I guess you'll be recommended to do regular Tsumegos and Tesujis, to get your games reviewed... From common knowledge, reviewing pro games may not be the most efficient way to get there but it's important to do things you enjoy and can sustain. You may look for some lessons via Skype with some pros or high level amateurs for more ad hoc pieces of advice.
That's the problem: when you're young, you have time but not the money... When you're a bit older, it's often the opposite...
You may try some group lessons to shave some costs or consider the guo Juan lectures... On a free level, you can try viewing the battousai videos on YouTube... Obviously, it's not the same as getting personal pieces of advice.
It's hard to get free teaching after you reach some level...
Study the topics where you feel you're weakest to progress quickly. Beginner is weak at everything, so whatever instruction will cause rapid progress. The stronger you become, the less weakness there is. Systematic and comprehensive covering of topics, like how pros train, is the way to become really strong.
I'll just put some examples here: * Are you able to effortlessly read ladders and implement ladder breakers to strategy? * Do you routinely count points during game? * Do you understand the principle of probing plays and when to probe? * Are you able to switch between attacking and defending appropriately? * Do you know how to take advantage of opponent's bad shape? * Are you equally comfortable playing with moyo and playing against moyo?
I think my wickness are the direction to play and to leave to many weak group. i want all, even if i kill a big group i want to kill an other and i often loose game with that.
I have an other question about kgs teacher, what is the difference beetwwen a lesson by vic1000 and 6d amateur ( like slendy, cornel ... )
jyka wrote:i want all, even if i kill a big group i want to kill an other and i often loose game with that.
It's good you have identified this as one weakness -- so have you then considered to count after your big kill and re-access the board to see if you need to kill more (and risk losing if you're already ahead) ?
Yes, i often counting in my game, spend lot of time to this, but i took so many risk when i kill group, for exemple, my last game in the french tournament, i kill a big group i have an advantage around 20pt but i let my opponnet kill me a corner and he win 2.5 pt
Read the article The Marginal Advantage by Day9. While written partially from a game development perspective, I think reading this article improved not just my Go but my ability in many competitive games I've played.
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
i shared my experience of becoming 1D in six month. i always thought that it was due to reading professional comments on their games.
i just realized that i played many many games against strong (5d+) players. that seems to be one of the reason why i improved faster than others. if you are intrest in playing Malkovich game with me let me know..
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
nothing is free. i will cost your pain and suffering... set up and invite me. i really dont care how many stones.. whatever is comfortable for you is fine.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
I'm actually 3k, soon 2k on kgs, i have time to study go ( around 2/3h per day) and i want a training to become 1D asap !
What is the best way for me ? I think this : study pro games ( Katao Masao for killing and Lee Changho for invasion and reduction ) after do some tsumego and study joseki/fuseki.
Thanks for you help
One size does not fit all. How long have you been playing? What has been your study regime so far?
You can almost make this recommendation:
Whatever you have been doing, do something else.
The law of diminishing returns is quite general. Your question suggests a dissatisfaction with what you are currently doing. Studying other things, or studying in a different way could easily produce rapid results.
I think my wickness are the direction to play and to leave to many weak group.
A good pro to study, both for direction of play and not leaving too many weak groups, is Fujisawa Hideyuki (Shuko). For shinogi Sakata is good. Also Cho Chikun.
Good luck!
The Adkins Principle: At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Dusk Eagle wrote:Read the article The Marginal Advantage by Day9. While written partially from a game development perspective, I think reading this article improved not just my Go but my ability in many competitive games I've played.
That is good advice for winning games. I am not so sure how it is for learning to play. I now play a miai-ish style, which is very much like the Marginal Advantage approach. Whichever alternative you take, I take the other, and I am still happy. But I started out trying to kill everything. If I had started out trying to take a small advantage and leave miai, I doubt if I would have developed my attacking skills.
Ben Hogan gave similar advice about golf. Start off trying to knock the hell out of the ball. If you start off trying to develop a smooth swing, you will never develop your power. Reti gave similar advice for chess. Start out playing gambits and open, attacking games. If you start out trying to eke out and maintain a small positional advantage, you will be at a loss when the game opens up.
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The Adkins Principle: At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
